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We don't dislike EVERY American, we just dislike the assholes and America's foreign policies.

Not that South Africa did bad things to Africa either...

Last edited by Ikarti (2006-06-14 05:47:31)

Snakestyles wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Valid points however alot has changed in the last 200 years so all of those points are pretty irrelivent in this day and age, the furthest back anyone can hope to compare a country to is about 50 years max. Cultures completly change within that time frame.

Thats not entirely true,Africa is still suffering and the colonials have still not made repirations.

Africans dieing of aids, starvation and lack of water isn't entirely our fault.

Last edited by Cold Fussion (2006-06-14 05:48:29)

Apartheid doesn't conjure up images of joy to me.

Africa is a mess for so many reasons, I would say most can be attributed to Europe and the more Modern world, but the whole overthrowing your leader and replacing him with an identical leader every week shit has got to stop.

delta4bravo*nl* wrote:

I'm so sick and tired of all those USA treads.........
Looks to me like the us cant take any criticism, and they sure do not learn from there mistakes.
The usa a beautifull country, with some nice people if you do not count in the 60.000.000 rednecks.

And all the pro george bush people.

Snakestyles, as an Irishman who knows his history I can tell you foreign colonialism/imperialism raped our land and we were left in a similar state to other nations abandoned by their colonial overlord. The fact of the matter is that we threw of our colonial power and rightly so - because they were not and do not act in the best interest of the people they have subjugated. We broke free of the shackles of our invaders (well 80% of our country) and in the past 80-90 years we have taken control of our own affairs and transformed our country from being the most improverished in western europe to the second richest, with the highest quality of life.

Colonised nations have to throw off their overlords, deal with the quagmire they find themselves in, which may last decades, and emerge at the other end with a nation they themselves have constructed. To rely on some trumped up foreign 'do gooder' to 'do what's best' for the colony they're abandoning is foolish.

You should just be glad that you're free to manage your own affairs. One day things will come together for these 'abandoned' african nations.

I personally deplore the acts of the British, Belgian and French empires - the only ones I have read much on - just because I criticise the US and don't bang on about these empires doesn't mean I think they're saints by any means. I do rant about the Brits in particular from time to time. Most of the threads never lead to situations where the acts of these empires are brought up anyway.

I think it odd that you be praising the newest wave of imperialism - the US conquest of the middle east - when you yourself are from a continent whose progress has been held back for possibly centuries at the hands of colonialism. If you think the US are going to leave Iraq in such a utopian state then IMO you will probably be gravely mistaken.

I am an American.

I vote.

I pray.

I love, in this order: my God, my family, my country.  and all three are extremely important to me.

We all come from different backgrounds.  I see Dutch, Australian, American, and South African in this thread alone.  We all have a different perspective.

Living in the shadow of the World Trade Center (40 miles away), I knew close to half a dozen people who perished when those hateful people flew our planes into our buildings.  When they fell, I could see without the Television the smoke in the sky from the window of my dorm room at Seton Hall University.

My classmates cried.  My professors cried.  My parents cried.  I cried, too.  You cannot understand how genuinely scary that day was.

People say "we will never forget 9/11."  Some have, and some have not.  I have not forgotten.  You who have not lost thousands of people in one day because of these terrorists do not have the same perspective that many of us americans have.  I understand that you do not understand.  But why be so intolerant?  You did not lose loved ones.  You stand on the outside, criticizing.

Say a prayer.  Don't just ejaculate hate as you do now, because it upsets people who care.

Why can't you understand the genuine grievances that they had?

That's all I'll say, given that your post was OT enough.

G3|Genius wrote:

I am an American.

I vote.

I pray.

I love, in this order: my God, my family, my country.  and all three are extremely important to me.

We all come from different backgrounds.  I see Dutch, Australian, American, and South African in this thread alone.  We all have a different perspective.

Living in the shadow of the World Trade Center (40 miles away), I knew close to half a dozen people who perished when those hateful people flew our planes into our buildings.  When they fell, I could see without the Television the smoke in the sky from the window of my dorm room at Seton Hall University.

My classmates cried.  My professors cried.  My parents cried.  I cried, too.  You cannot understand how genuinely scary that day was.

People say "we will never forget 9/11."  Some have, and some have not.  I have not forgotten.  You who have not lost thousands of people in one day because of these terrorists do not have the same perspective that many of us americans have.  I understand that you do not understand.  But why be so intolerant?  You did not lose loved ones.  You stand on the outside, criticizing.

Say a prayer.  Don't just ejaculate hate as you do now, because it upsets people who care.

I think you'll find Spain had their own version of '9/11' at the hands of islamic extremists. The USA doesn't have a monopoly on 'being the victim'.

CameronPoe wrote:

G3|Genius wrote:

People say "we will never forget 9/11."  Some have, and some have not.  I have not forgotten.  You who have not lost thousands of people in one day because of these terrorists do not have the same perspective that many of us americans have.  I understand that you do not understand.  But why be so intolerant?  You did not lose loved ones.  You stand on the outside, criticizing.

I think you'll find Spain had their own version of '9/11' at the hands of islamic extremists. The USA doesn't have a monopoly on 'being the victim'.

Are you from Spain?

M1-Lightning wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

G3|Genius wrote:

People say "we will never forget 9/11."  Some have, and some have not.  I have not forgotten.  You who have not lost thousands of people in one day because of these terrorists do not have the same perspective that many of us americans have.  I understand that you do not understand.  But why be so intolerant?  You did not lose loved ones.  You stand on the outside, criticizing.

I think you'll find Spain had their own version of '9/11' at the hands of islamic extremists. The USA doesn't have a monopoly on 'being the victim'.

Are you from Spain?

Does that even matter?

You're from Illinois, a state in the USA. 9/11 happened in PA, DC & NY.
I'm from Ireland, a country in the EU. The Madrid bombings happened in a fellow EU country.

I love this whole 'Are you qualified to comment?' type sniping. Everybody is entitled to their opinion on anything - that's what's so great about free speech.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-06-14 06:35:07)

delta4bravo*nl* wrote:

I'm so sick and tired of all those USA treads.........
Looks to me like the us cant take any criticism, and they sure do not learn from there mistakes.
The usa a beautifull country, with some nice people if you do not count in the 60.000.000 rednecks.

Funny how people throw around the term Redneck. It's offensive. Suck my ass with a straw, commie.