I don't really tend to buy from any other retailer other than newegg unless, it's like a $50 + difference.
Thanks, your information was helpful.
Thanks, your information was helpful.
I wish we could order from newegg up here in Canuckland.
I'm a price shopper, so I shop everywhere. I buy lots of stuff from newegg too. Monarch is sweet because there's also no sales tax for us living in Kalifornia.acdc wrote:
I don't really tend to buy from any other retailer other than newegg unless, it's like a $50 + difference.
Thanks, your information was helpful.
Monarch and Directron , both FTW for Cali users...... Back to topic, I just dumped all my opterons, 2x244, 2x 246 and 1 250, (as well as my fx51 skt 940) I needed to make room in my house, but I can say they were all good solid performers, the 939 units are more receptive to OC'ing than the 940 units because the 940 standard requires the EEC memory and AMD "locks" the multipliers to insure the stability of the "server" class of opterons (2xx,4xx,8xx ect)
Good god no. I tried XP64 and it blows. It was like running the Vista beta. Drivers didn't work, apps wouldn't install, no one's made anything for the 64 bit os yet. Most stuff will run in the 32bit emulation layer, but then what's the f'ing point?137[CSi] wrote:
Granted I also run a 64 bit OS now since the 32 bit version of XP professional was actually holding back the potential of my computer.
The only real gain you get is when something is particularily processor intense and can actually use the extra addressing space nicely -- which is just about NOTHING you use on a day to day basis.
So, for those wondering, XP64 == teh lose unless you specifically need it.
I plan on upgrading to XP 64-bit when Vista comes out, I'll stick with 64 until Microsoft no longer supports XP or if some really killer games come out for Vista which I'm sure that's what will make me buy it. Hopefully in 07 there will be fully supported drivers etc for XP 64-bit.chuyskywalker wrote:
Good god no. I tried XP64 and it blows. It was like running the Vista beta. Drivers didn't work, apps wouldn't install, no one's made anything for the 64 bit os yet. Most stuff will run in the 32bit emulation layer, but then what's the f'ing point?137[CSi] wrote:
Granted I also run a 64 bit OS now since the 32 bit version of XP professional was actually holding back the potential of my computer.
The only real gain you get is when something is particularily processor intense and can actually use the extra addressing space nicely -- which is just about NOTHING you use on a day to day basis.
So, for those wondering, XP64 == teh lose unless you specifically need it.
I'll probably be getting the Opteron 146 or 170.
dont do that. there is basically no driver support for XP-64 and there won't ever be any (and it costs a lot). 64 bit is currently not needed. Stick with xp-32 until you upgrade to vista.acdc wrote:
I plan on upgrading to XP 64-bit when Vista comes out, I'll stick with 64 until Microsoft no longer supports XP or if some really killer games come out for Vista which I'm sure that's what will make me buy it. Hopefully in 07 there will be fully supported drivers etc for XP 64-bit.chuyskywalker wrote:
Good god no. I tried XP64 and it blows. It was like running the Vista beta. Drivers didn't work, apps wouldn't install, no one's made anything for the 64 bit os yet. Most stuff will run in the 32bit emulation layer, but then what's the f'ing point?137[CSi] wrote:
Granted I also run a 64 bit OS now since the 32 bit version of XP professional was actually holding back the potential of my computer.
The only real gain you get is when something is particularily processor intense and can actually use the extra addressing space nicely -- which is just about NOTHING you use on a day to day basis.
So, for those wondering, XP64 == teh lose unless you specifically need it.
I'll probably be getting the Opteron 146 or 170.
btw: (my) opty 170 is a terrific overclocker
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You're saying there won't ever be decent driver support for XP 64-bit? Why is that? Everyone is getting ready for Vista? I don't really want to upgrade to Vista unless I have too!max wrote:
dont do that. there is basically no driver support for XP-64 and there won't ever be any (and it costs a lot). 64 bit is currently not needed. Stick with xp-32 until you upgrade to vista.acdc wrote:
I plan on upgrading to XP 64-bit when Vista comes out, I'll stick with 64 until Microsoft no longer supports XP or if some really killer games come out for Vista which I'm sure that's what will make me buy it. Hopefully in 07 there will be fully supported drivers etc for XP 64-bit.chuyskywalker wrote:
Good god no. I tried XP64 and it blows. It was like running the Vista beta. Drivers didn't work, apps wouldn't install, no one's made anything for the 64 bit os yet. Most stuff will run in the 32bit emulation layer, but then what's the f'ing point?
The only real gain you get is when something is particularily processor intense and can actually use the extra addressing space nicely -- which is just about NOTHING you use on a day to day basis.
So, for those wondering, XP64 == teh lose unless you specifically need it.
I'll probably be getting the Opteron 146 or 170.
btw: (my) opty 170 is a terrific overclocker
You, of course, do realize that MS is making many of their own games (future stock) Vista only, right? Halo 3 is the big one.acdc wrote:
You're saying there won't ever be decent driver support for XP 64-bit? Why is that? Everyone is getting ready for Vista? I don't really want to upgrade to Vista unless I have too!
I have no doubt they'll push it to the other vendors as well either through direct B2B marketing/incentives or by making DX10 suck in XP.
acdc,acdc wrote:
I'll probably be getting the Opteron 146 or 170.
I still recommend a 165 over the 170. There's now been 2 reports of great steppings purchased recently (last week or 2) from monarch. The only worry you will have is if your mothboard will do it. I hear the make it or break it line is at 300Mhz for a good motherboard. If you slap one of those monarch 165s on a DFI nf4 board you could see 3ghz. At minimum I'd say you'll be around 2.7 to 2.8 (if you get a bad stepping). Just my $.02. If you're not already checking, I'd suggest you check out some good OCing forums where you can read reviews on different chips, different steppings, etc. I like extremeoverclocking.com, but there are many others.
I hate MS.chuyskywalker wrote:
You, of course, do realize that MS is making many of their own games (future stock) Vista only, right? Halo 3 is the big one.acdc wrote:
You're saying there won't ever be decent driver support for XP 64-bit? Why is that? Everyone is getting ready for Vista? I don't really want to upgrade to Vista unless I have too!
I have no doubt they'll push it to the other vendors as well either through direct B2B marketing/incentives or by making DX10 suck in XP.
ok ok, I'll buy the 165slo5oh wrote:
acdc,acdc wrote:
I'll probably be getting the Opteron 146 or 170.
I still recommend a 165 over the 170. There's now been 2 reports of great steppings purchased recently (last week or 2) from monarch. The only worry you will have is if your mothboard will do it. I hear the make it or break it line is at 300Mhz for a good motherboard. If you slap one of those monarch 165s on a DFI nf4 board you could see 3ghz. At minimum I'd say you'll be around 2.7 to 2.8 (if you get a bad stepping). Just my $.02. If you're not already checking, I'd suggest you check out some good OCing forums where you can read reviews on different chips, different steppings, etc. I like extremeoverclocking.com, but there are many others.
WOW!acdc wrote:
ok ok, I'll buy the 165
I didn't expect that!
I bought 1 too.