Computer_Guy
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Can someone explain to me how it works?
What do i need?
Im thinkin of getting some x1600 xt' s, Recommend some good ones
Do you really need a croosfire ready card and then a crossfire edition card OR
can you just have two crossfire ready cards?
Janus67
Tech God
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossfire_(GPU)

Last edited by Janus67 (2006-06-01 15:31:11)

liquidat0r
wtf.
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google

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Computer_Guy
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anybody know any good crossfire mobos
137[CSi]
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The one im using is an Asus A8R32 - MVP which requires an immediate bios update as soon as you get the machine up and running. If you're into extreme overclocking and the like then you could get the new DFI motherboard with the ATI XPRESS 3200 chipset aka RD580.

I currently have an x1900xt and I will most likely buy a secondary card so when I run fraps I dont have to drop my frames per second to 50 from 100.

Also I will let you know Nvidia does render this particular videogame better than an ATI, you will run into some weird artifacting with ATI graphics cards.
Janus67
Tech God
+86|6603|Ohio, USA
with the x1900 series though I believe you need an xtx to run crossfire.
Snipedya14
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liquidat0r wrote:

google
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Someone trying to act like a smartass only to link to goggle.

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Maj.Do
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Janus67 wrote:

with the x1900 series though I believe you need an xtx to run crossfire.
wait about changing the bios?  should work
ValentijnR
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http://www.hardware.info/reviews/Nieuwe … fire/640/3

its in dutch

but you can look at the benchmarks... concluding it isn't worth much
137[CSi]
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Janus67 wrote:

with the x1900 series though I believe you need an xtx to run crossfire.
NEGATIVE a 1900xtx is not a "CROSSFIRE" card, a crossfire card is just that. its something very specific you have to look for when purchasing the cards.

its crossfire "READY" it still requires a x1900 "crossfire" card to run in xfire. It doesnt work like Nvidia's buy two of the same card and then bridge them. This is how the technology differs between the two company.

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[TUF]Whiskey_Oktober
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i too have a x1900xt, but i am waiting to get a crossfire card untill the DX10 cards are released. i will get a DX10 crossfire card and run my x1900xt as its slave (if that even works). DFI has a good mobo out that is crossfire specific, but its $230..best one ive seen @ current time. also, you need an SLi PSU.
Cybargs
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that wouldnt work, since they have the be the same series i guess like x1900 series w/ 1900 series, not others
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stryyker
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Computer_Guy wrote:

anybody know any good crossfire mobos
there are none. the RX200 crossfire chipset is its 1st series, and it is flawed compared to nVIDIA's SLi system.
you need a master XFIRE card, and then a slave one (both xfire edition).
Maj.Do
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cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

that wouldnt work, since they have the be the same series i guess like x1900 series w/ 1900 series, not others
QFT
max
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To clear up the confusion:

Crossfire works on Motherboards with a ATi crossfire chipset, An nvidia SLI chipset as well as an intel 975x chipset. Ati left the dirvers open so that crossfie can run on any mobo that supports 2 times 8x pci-e lanes.

For the actual cards: you need any crossfire ready (i think from the 800 series they are, someone know this exactly?) card and any crossfire master card. i.e. the cards do not have to be from the same series. A coupling of a 1900xt or an 1900xtx and a 1900xt crossfire master (only availible as xt) is possible. so should a coupling of an 1900xt/xtx with a next-gen card (except Ati changes their drivers so that this is no longer possible; i however highly doubt that).

If it makes sense to run crossfire is something completely different. Everybody has their own opinion (and it is their right to have it). Sepeaking from my perspective it does not make sense, but that is just my opinion

hope that helps

max

EDIT: spelling (hope i got most)

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Cybargs
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ur right max, u need crossfire master and slave card, slave is ur standard ati card and master is the crossfire, yes i think it started w/ x800... but dual gpu is useless unless ur using top of the line
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Snipedya14 wrote:

liquidat0r wrote:

google
Define Irony

Someone trying to act like a smartass only to link to goggle.
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137[CSi]
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stryyker wrote:

Computer_Guy wrote:

anybody know any good crossfire mobos
there are none. the RX200 crossfire chipset is its 1st series, and it is flawed compared to nVIDIA's SLi system.
you need a master XFIRE card, and then a slave one (both xfire edition).
I sent you a link to clear up your confusion before you post incorrect information.

The RX200 was the first in the series, followed by the RX480 which has been replaced with the RX580 aka the X3200 chipset. Motherboards are already available from abit, asus, and dfi.

I currently have the Asus board as mentioned earlier in the thread. Please take caution before posting information for others in pursuit of USEFUL information.

Thank You
claydawg
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Computer_Guy
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max wrote:

To clear up the confusion:

Crossfire works on Motherboards with a ATi crossfire chipset, An nvidia SLI chipset as well as an intel 975x chipset. Ati left the dirvers open so that crossfie can run on any mobo that supports 2 times 8x pci-e lanes.



EDIT: spelling (hope i got most)
So i could get an sli motherboard and run crossfire on it, right?
Janus67
Tech God
+86|6603|Ohio, USA

Computer_Guy wrote:

max wrote:

To clear up the confusion:

Crossfire works on Motherboards with a ATi crossfire chipset, An nvidia SLI chipset as well as an intel 975x chipset. Ati left the dirvers open so that crossfie can run on any mobo that supports 2 times 8x pci-e lanes.



EDIT: spelling (hope i got most)
So i could get an sli motherboard and run crossfire on it, right?
I never heard that, max can you link me to show me where you read about being able to run crossfire on an sli motherboard?
Croak
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Folks, you don't NEED a master card to run X1600's in Crossfire

Master cards are now only needed only needed for the old cores (X800/850), and the high-bandwidth top end cards (X1800XT, X1900XT/XTX).  The 1300's and 1600's don't even need the dongle.

That said, unless you want to gradually upgrade, it makes more sense in terms of performance (and cost) to go with a single high end 512mb card...You can now pick up an X1800XT for about what you'd spend on two X1600XT's, and the X1800XT will outperform the pair of X1600's (and you can always Crossfire that later).  For that matter, if you can find one that won't asplode, a 7900GT would kick the asses of two X1600XTs.

Or spend a little more money and buy a single X1900XT (shop around, they can be had for $360-$400 at places like NewEgg).  And If one card is all you want, you won't need to buy a Crossfire motherboard if you already have a PCI-e motherboard, a savings which can easily cover the cost of going with a single X1900Xt instead of two X1600XT's.

But please, don't even THINK about buying a pair of X1600 Pro cards.

Finally, most Intel 975x boards will support Crossfire just fine, for those of you looking to jump over to the Conroe bandwagon or just sticking with Intel.

And to the posters above...You DO need to stay in the same card series to use Crossfire...an X1900XT and an X850 pair won't work, even if one of them is a master card...nor will the upcoming R600 (DX10) card work with an X1900.  Just won't work, period.

Now, that said, there's a CHANCE that ATI will let you use a second, mismatched card, to offload physics work from the CPU, but that's just theory and talk from ATI (and Nvidia is making the same kind of noises), and not something we'll see for at least a year, if it happens at all.

Last edited by Croak (2006-06-04 00:38:48)

Cybargs
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Janus67 wrote:

Computer_Guy wrote:

max wrote:

To clear up the confusion:

Crossfire works on Motherboards with a ATi crossfire chipset, An nvidia SLI chipset as well as an intel 975x chipset. Ati left the dirvers open so that crossfie can run on any mobo that supports 2 times 8x pci-e lanes.



EDIT: spelling (hope i got most)
So i could get an sli motherboard and run crossfire on it, right?
I never heard that, max can you link me to show me where you read about being able to run crossfire on an sli motherboard?
yes u can, but i dont have link i heard about it in a tech forum, and sum guy did run crossfire on an sli mobo
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