T0tal-Annihilation
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+6|6682|Marietta, GA (near Atlanta)
Because AMD is still at the height of its game with 64 chips...
as in AMD is still the best so there's no reason to drop the price until AMD releases better chips or Intel actually brings forth a chip worthy enough to compete with AMD.
lilmike815
Member
+2|6792|Chicago, IL, U. S. A.
I though the prices did fall because the the fx-60 is below 1000 on new egg and the 939 boards are lower also. The asus a8n32-deluxe is below 200.
fierce
I love [fiSh]
+167|6565

T0tal-Annihilation wrote:

as in AMD is still the best so there's no reason to drop the price until AMD releases better chips or Intel actually brings forth a chip worthy enough to compete with AMD.
uhm... with the Conroe Intel has already demolished all AMD processors...

-1 for you being an AMD groupie.
T0tal-Annihilation
Member
+6|6682|Marietta, GA (near Atlanta)
lol nothing wrong with AMD xP
I'm running of an Intel right now... (2.8 OCed 3.2)
and how am I an AMD groupie?

-1 for calling me an AMD groupie x( [I don't even have any AMD chips]

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Cybargs
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+2,285|6713

T0tal-Annihilation wrote:

Because AMD is still at the height of its game with 64 chips...
as in AMD is still the best so there's no reason to drop the price until AMD releases better chips or Intel actually brings forth a chip worthy enough to compete with AMD.
By the looks of whats happening now AMD is getting crushed by conroe... a 300usd cpu can compete with its athalon FX60... nothing to worry about? i think not
https://cache.www.gametracker.com/server_info/203.46.105.23:21300/b_350_20_692108_381007_FFFFFF_000000.png
T0tal-Annihilation
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+6|6682|Marietta, GA (near Atlanta)
Well, from what I hear, Conroe is set to release on July 23rd...
If I'm right, AMD still has an upper edge right now even though it's more than a bit worried (or so I hear)
Cybargs
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T0tal-Annihilation wrote:

Well, from what I hear, Conroe is set to release on July 23rd...
If I'm right, AMD still has an upper edge right now even though it's more than a bit worried (or so I hear)
so theyre not worried they might go bankrupt in 2 months? from what ive heard no one is buy AM2 and waiting for conroe... btw there are conroes on sale on ebay... also 2.4ghz conroe can overclock to 3.6ghz on AIR... u cant do that with an amd
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Janus67
Tech God
+86|6592|Ohio, USA
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=461228

Might want to give that a read.  Sounds like AMD (by speculation) may have something up their sleeves. 

A few links to check out:

http://129.15.202.185/athlon_rev_g/wtf_mates.html
http://www.realworldtech.com/forums/ind … 11#CURRENT
http://www.amdzone.com/index.php?name=P … a518bb8570

I will wait for final production to make my decision, but as of right now I may be upgrading to Conroe in a year if it is going to continue breaking the WR's that I have seen (Super Pi 1M in 11.3xx seconds!) and the insane overclockability (lol cyborg) that they have while on air, they are just asking to go underneath my storm!
Maj.Do
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+85|6749|good old CA
sounds interesting but if its above like 400 then ill stick with intel
acdc
Member
+37|6572|SEATTLE, WA
AMD is going to go bankrupt when Conroe releases?

Also, I don't think many people are buying AM2, why would people buy AM2 with 939 somewhat matured and the release of Conroe coming so soon?
Janus67
Tech God
+86|6592|Ohio, USA
I personally wouldn't.  I think the only reason to get AM2 is if you are an AMD fanboy and are upgrading from Socket754 or SocketA. 

I will personally wait to see if there is a design similar to the links I posted about (with 4FPU etc) that would not only be a die shrink but also give a large boost in processing power (from what I have read, as I am not huge into cpu architecture -- yet)
acdc
Member
+37|6572|SEATTLE, WA
If you didn't have a current gaming computer...

Would you....

A.  Wait for Conroe

B.  Buy 939

C.  Buy AM2

D.  Wait until 2007, K8L?
Janus67
Tech God
+86|6592|Ohio, USA
oooooh, that is a tougher question that chicken or the egg...

I would say Conroe, but only after the second or third revision has been released (which may be by 2007 with K8L to compete against it) and there are stable/good overclocking motherboards.  I never jump directly onto a brand new technology/design as they are bound to have too many bugs.
j4g3r
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+0|6537
That's a hard decision, I would probably go with one of these three. 

A.  Wait for Conroe

B.  Buy 939

D.  Wait until 2007, K8L?
Cybargs
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its not just conroe is fast thats making it good, its uber cheap, fast and high overclockability on air... btw new WR 10.4 secs on super pi 1m, 3 mhz off 5ghz (darn fsb...) unless K8L can have around the same pricing and can compare with conroe, then i might consider it... but do remember intel can always have massive price cuts whilst AMD cannot (smaller companies cant afford it)
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JE3146
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+109|6568|Oregon
Heres hoping K8L is the shit.....

2007 is when I rebuild and upgrade from Socket A.

I'd prefer not to go Intel, (as it'd break a long lasting tradition), but I will if I have to.
JE3146
Member
+109|6568|Oregon

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

its not just conroe is fast thats making it good, its uber cheap, fast and high overclockability on air... btw new WR 10.4 secs on super pi 1m, 3 mhz off 5ghz (darn fsb...) unless K8L can have around the same pricing and can compare with conroe, then i might consider it... but do remember intel can always have massive price cuts whilst AMD cannot (smaller companies cant afford it)
I read through a few overclocking sprees and never once heard if that 4.5 to 5Ghz mark was Prime95 stable.

Saw a lot of 3Dmark and Pi calculation stuff, but not any Prime95.

If the comp reboots because of instability after 2 hours of load, then it aint worth jackshit o/ced.
Cybargs
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well i never said anything about stabilty did i but yeah ur kinda right there, but running super pi is like cpu stressing though (32m). if ur thinking of upgrade, i think conroe is the way to go since there is no hard info on K8L, and the asus workstation 975x mobo can support conroe... i got the board and asus sent me their latest bios update for conroe... but u need conroe in it
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_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|6714|Riva, MD

acdc wrote:

If you didn't have a current gaming computer...

Would you....

A.  Wait for Conroe

B.  Buy 939

C.  Buy AM2

D.  Wait until 2007, K8L?
I don't have a gaming computer and if I had to upgrade this to something hardcore, I would go with Conroe for value.
Brasso
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+1,549|6627

damn, too bad I have a 754 socket mobo...
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Cybargs
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+2,285|6713

haffeysucks wrote:

damn, too bad I have a 754 socket mobo...
thats amd only... well yeah that kinda sucks for u, so join us and buy conroe
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fierce
I love [fiSh]
+167|6565
Unfortunately my P5WD2 Premium won't support Core 2, so i need to sell it even if i'm happy with it. I've already selected the ASUS P5B Deluxe as my new motherboard.
T0tal-Annihilation
Member
+6|6682|Marietta, GA (near Atlanta)
Well, like Janus said, I'll probably do what he says and not buy Conroe until after a few revisions...
What I will do is probably wait a while after Conroe "kills" everybody else and then go buy an AMD or another non-Conroe Intel as there has to be some kind of price drop after Conroe hits the market for a while. It all just depends on how much it drops.
Janus67
Tech God
+86|6592|Ohio, USA

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

its not just conroe is fast thats making it good, its uber cheap, fast and high overclockability on air... btw new WR 10.4 secs on super pi 1m, 3 mhz off 5ghz (darn fsb...) unless K8L can have around the same pricing and can compare with conroe, then i might consider it... but do remember intel can always have massive price cuts whilst AMD cannot (smaller companies cant afford it)
I assume at xtremesystems? can you link me cyborg?!
T0tal-Annihilation
Member
+6|6682|Marietta, GA (near Atlanta)
lol I want a link too.

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