I remember that quite clearly when it was on European news channels. They were just a crackpot minority. The overwhelmning majority of attendees were peaceful and abhorred the kind of shit those guys were spouting. Official apologies were made by certain muslim parties and people were prosecuted for race hatred and inciting violence so the crackpots doubly shot themselves in the foot.atlvolunteer wrote:
I found a link to this from another site I visit and thought it worth posting here.
http://atheistvoices.com/islamlove.htm
Boy, those muslims sure are a peace-loving people...
Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-05-31 07:57:07)
Yeah, those car fires were a peaceful demonstration.... I would hate to see them protest violently. Careful not to show em cartoons, or make a film about Women in Islam.CameronPoe wrote:
Muslims in Germany and France have a tougher time fitting in but thus far they haven't threatened or caused any violence.
My genuine mistake. Forgot about the Paris riots. That was more a social classes/immigration issue rather than a religious one though.Erkut.hv wrote:
Yeah, those car fires were a peaceful demonstration.... I would hate to see them protest violently. Careful not to show em cartoons, or make a film about Women in Islam.CameronPoe wrote:
Muslims in Germany and France have a tougher time fitting in but thus far they haven't threatened or caused any violence.
GATOR - The muslim population of the Republic of Ireland is miniscule. The only countries that have muslim populations in Europe are the past colonial powers - who owe a debt to those countries they shafted for so many years. Having said that Islam will never come close to being more than just a minority grouping within Europe. It is much harder for some foreigner to get EU citizenship than it is for Mexicans to swim across the Rio Grande and get a job in a Taco Bell.GATOR591957 wrote:
Muslim hatred didn't start in this century. In the 1800's they invited an American ship to their ports and subsequently massacred the entire ship. I'm tired of hearing it is just a small percentage of people making us all look bad. I feel for Europe as you are being invaded day after day to which your majority will be Muslim someday. What's even harder is stopping it, being a free society and all.
The thing is, you never hear msulim groups coming out against anything that their brethren do. When those heretics calling themselves Christians protest at military funerals (won't give them the recognition they want), many people speak out against them publicly.The_Mob_Returns wrote:
I agree with Monkey, every religion has its extremists. And it is the extermists that you hear about, why would the media show the people that are actually following the idea of their religion. As a Christian, the extremists would be that church in Kansas. For muslims, I am sure that it is terrorists.
I know two muslims and they are wonderful people.
That's actually wrong. Most, if not all countries in Europe have Muslims within their borders. I live in Norway; I should know.CameronPoe wrote:
The only countries that have muslim populations in Europe are the past colonial powers - who owe a debt to those countries they shafted for so many years.
Correction: I meant sizeable muslim populations.Janysc wrote:
That's actually wrong. Most, if not all countries in Europe have Muslims within their borders. I live in Norway; I should know.CameronPoe wrote:
The only countries that have muslim populations in Europe are the past colonial powers - who owe a debt to those countries they shafted for so many years.
turkey?CameronPoe wrote:
Correction: I meant sizeable muslim populations.Janysc wrote:
That's actually wrong. Most, if not all countries in Europe have Muslims within their borders. I live in Norway; I should know.CameronPoe wrote:
The only countries that have muslim populations in Europe are the past colonial powers - who owe a debt to those countries they shafted for so many years.
Ah. While I do believe the Muslim population in Norway is significant; our Conservative Party is worried that they might start their own party soon. I say, let them do it. Let their voice be heard; and besides, calling for jihad is hardly political and wouldn't belong in the political world over here.CameronPoe wrote:
Correction: I meant sizeable muslim populations.Janysc wrote:
That's actually wrong. Most, if not all countries in Europe have Muslims within their borders. I live in Norway; I should know.CameronPoe wrote:
The only countries that have muslim populations in Europe are the past colonial powers - who owe a debt to those countries they shafted for so many years.
OMFG they are ALWAYS causing touble. I'm in Austria, so we have a similar situation like in Germany and surveys predicted that no less than 40% of the muslims here don't want to integrate (mostly due to religious & cultural reasons)... and those are just those who at least admit it, so please don't tell me they don't cause fuckin trouble. I hate that "Oh peace everywhere, don't talk so bad about the muslims" crap. Open your eyes guys and stop being idiotic, there are cultures that don't get along with each other, and those are Western & Islamic culture. Sad but true.CameronPoe wrote:
Muslims in Germany and France have a tougher time fitting in but thus far they haven't threatened or caused any violence.
I personally see non-integration of muslims into western society here in Europe as one of the biggest problems facing those European nations that are home to many muslims. I also think Turkey cannot ever be a part of the EU as Islam is largely incompatible with western values. Islam preaches 'Absolute submission to the will of Allah' - this often doesn't quite fit with western democracy and secular laws.Vintageologist wrote:
OMFG they are ALWAYS causing touble. I'm in Austria, so we have a similar situation like in Germany and surveys predicted that no less than 40% of the muslims here don't want to integrate (mostly due to religious & cultural reasons)... and those are just those who at least admit it, so please don't tell me they don't cause fuckin trouble. I hate that "Oh peace everywhere, don't talk so bad about the muslims" crap. Open your eyes guys and stop being idiotic, there are cultures that don't get along with each other, and those are Western & Islamic culture. Sad but true.CameronPoe wrote:
Muslims in Germany and France have a tougher time fitting in but thus far they haven't threatened or caused any violence.
Let the -1 fest begin because "I'm so intolerant" and what not...
yes...but why they blow up things if they dont like something....weird habitatlvolunteer wrote:
I found a link to this from another site I visit and thought it worth posting here.
http://atheistvoices.com/islamlove.htm
Boy, those muslims sure are a peace-loving people...
Hahahaha!*=]AD[=*Pro_NL wrote:
yes...but why they blow up things if they dont like something....weird habit
Personally, I don't regard Turkey as a european nation.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
turkey?CameronPoe wrote:
Correction: I meant sizeable muslim populations.Janysc wrote:
That's actually wrong. Most, if not all countries in Europe have Muslims within their borders. I live in Norway; I should know.
The bigger part of Turkey is Asian, so they aren't really Europe.CameronPoe wrote:
Personally, I don't regard Turkey as a european nation.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
turkey?CameronPoe wrote:
Correction: I meant sizeable muslim populations.
If this happened then it is good to hear. It seems to me that usually when these "extremists" do something, the "moderate" muslims remain silent. If they don't want us to associate them with the extremists, they need to open their mouths and denounce what they are doing.CameronPoe wrote:
Official apologies were made by certain muslim parties
If you had read all of the post preceding yours, you would see that most christians outspokenly opposed what these nutcases did.tip700 wrote:
i also remember seeing picture and video footage of some sorta christian organisaiton compaigning at dead soldiers funerals that they were punished by god and god would cleanse everyone or some shit, i agree with the comment every religoun has its extremists