unnamednewbie13
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a normal american person, doing what should be normal politics, would've said something nice or at least inclusive on easter sunday. trump made another crass threat to do war crimes and snuff out life. it has 60,000 likes.

we can't have social services, because we need trillions for this! his words, even! trust in the plan or something. you don't want to be non-patrotic, do you mac? tighten your belt!

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The comments from conservatives about bombing Iranians is ugly. It really hardens my heart towards conservatives and their adjacent everything.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
uziq
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the whole tone is increasingly fascistic in a very sort of ‘poorly written call of duty’ way. the mountain dew reich.
unnamednewbie13
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the airport shooting level in cod used to be called controversial. tough material!

now, meanwhile irl, just daily murders without the cloak and dagger. tweeted proudly in brags and plans for more by the non-veteran, epstein fiend of a potus. "step 3, ___. step 4, profit."

it's the week following easter and jesus wants ww3.
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Gas prices are still inching up. This reminds me of COVID. Trump goes on TV and makes the situation worse day after day.

...

I am at the point where it isn't even about Iran anymore. News of economic damage in the U.S. isn't a negative. Like the Iranians, I am willing to absorb suffering here if it helps bury Trump/MAGA/Republicans.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Dilbert_X
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I hope the dumbfucks who bought monster trucks are feeling the pain.
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SuperJail Warden
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Try to act with compassion

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SuperJail Warden
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Jewish Americans shouldn't be punished for Israel actions.

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uziq
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netanyahu inside the situation room. lol. isn't that borderline treasonous?
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Jewish people matter too

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SuperJail Warden
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I decided to just take a break from the reddit threads about this war. I am going to just follow the NYT feed even if it is bias.

I had expressed relief that people weren't being killed in Iran today in America's name. The responses were like "but what about the militas Iran is sending into their cities now." At this point I realized that the so called liberals don't actually care about the underlying violence and death but instead want to score culture war points. Disgusting really.

I logged out of my reddit account and don't want to go back. I am just going to go plan some charity event or productive activities for kids.
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uziq
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hard to see this as anything other than categorical american defeat. a disaster that makes suez look like a misunderstanding at a dinner party.

the myth of american military supremacy has been totally busted and iran is now undoubtedly in control of the region’s choke points. things run on their watch now - netting them $100 billion a year in profits. US bases in the area turned into craters, american allies’ industry and infrastructure similarly smoked. dubai is never coming back to pre-war confidence.

meanwhile taiwan’s KMT are meeting with CCP. korean and japanese conservatives are appalled. you just vaporised all your good will and the tacit hegemon-client relationship all over the region. they’ve all seen that you’ll sell them out and abandon them at the drop of a hat. any serious politician in the region now has to contend with the idea of pivoting to a more sensible long-term strategy. which means coming to terms with china.

europe hates you. you spent month sneering at them and saying they all had tin-pot navies and micropenises. you’ve threatened them so many times over NATO that they’re tired of the abusive partner act. germany rearming. france and UK entering new agreements for nuclear self-sufficiency. no more “special relationship” to call upon.

unmitigated and self-inflicted disaster.
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the americans who would be gutted the most having this stuff pointed out are no longer present on the forum.

america lying and tossing other countries under the bus isn't even new. trump's just speed running us to the end while all the "prepare for cheap groceries and $1.50 gas" people are either being uncharacteristically quiet (or creepy optimism, "it'll be fine, i'm sure"), or suddenly saying that they'd gladly pay higher gas if it meant sticking it to the iranian regime.

or still blaming democrats. "industry is down because prices are up and it's gov bob's fault for wanting more taxes," hello?! trump, tariffs, iran (nO nEw WaRs)? any of that ring a bell? what about the school full of dead children? the epstein stuff you weirdly voted for trump for because he said he'd release it? isn't your side on about protecting children?

the blind spot people have for republicans raking everyone over the coals is no longer astonishing. the whataboutisms they'll sink to when trying to squeak out of corners is just fucking obnoxious. "clinton fired people too." the famous, condescending "all politicians do this, newbie."

i cannot fathom how these people would react if they had to go from little inconveniences to toxic rain. as it is, 9/11 is still sacred to them. i could go off on another tangent about trump being no friend to the first responders and other affected people, either.

can we please roll back executive power. can't take this every 4 years.

Trump says US will to pause Iran attacks for two weeks
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/tru … 32445.html

THE ART OF THE DEAL U GUYS

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uziq wrote:

netanyahu inside the situation room. lol. isn't that borderline treasonous?
Netanyahu is running America, the question is why is Trump in there?
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uziq wrote:

the myth of american military supremacy has been totally busted and iran is now undoubtedly in control of the region’s choke points. things run on their watch now - netting them $100 billion a year in profits. US bases in the area turned into craters, american allies’ industry and infrastructure similarly smoked. dubai is never coming back to pre-war confidence.
Whatever happened in the desert was not a hostage rescue, or not to begin with.

Lots of analysis pointing out that Colonels don't fly as weapons officers unless they're supervising an operation on the ground, shoulder launched missiles only take out aircraft at low level, you don't involve "hundreds" of troops, land two C130s and unload four helicopters to rescue one person, this was some other operation which went badly wrong.
Pretty funny that Trump gave all this away with his military cringing behind him.
Also why did they leave someone's head behind if there were no casualties?

Glad to see that Israel's invincibility is fully punctured, the air defence system is fairly easily penetrated, much serious damage done, if they do it again they can expect more of the same.

unmitigated and self-inflicted disaster.
Now the deal on the table is worse than the one Obama had.

https://images-fe.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81J4xjPVJOL._AC_UL600_SR600,600_.jpg

The Russians must be laughing, they supplied a lot of the intel and equipment, and its been great for their oil income with sanctions lifted - LMAO

I would be confident the Chinese have used this to work out how to track and shoot down stealth aircraft, in the long run this is probably the worst part.
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uziq
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the cluelessness of the american executive really cannot be understated. they are really not very bright people.

the spectacle of them whacking a government of PhD'd philosophers and engineers is still darkly amusing to me.

america has come away from this encounter, unbelievably, looking like the state motivated by stone-age beliefs and theocratic mumbo-jumbo.

https://premierchristian.news/image_cache/e/8/7/0/e/e870e663549e013427ac1bdd2498df654be19364.jpeg



are we really pretending these are the sober rationalists whose job it is to police the world order and make sure everyone plays nice?

https://scontent.fbrs1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/654272527_1406655058141515_6332188295348045659_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s1080x2048_tt6&_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=7b2446&_nc_ohc=m54Fs7INwmIQ7kNvwFxd3yd&_nc_oc=Adocbu4GI08bxTk3nXADvzcPCB1FRwWsUNvUhao1WFWH4tecurD1sI2ODaqzv_sXSEk&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.fbrs1-1.fna&_nc_gid=8S_2pG8i3Ykbt4dKCVj5qA&_nc_ss=7a389&oh=00_Af0PEkkCfST6spH-apqdql7okdm4gU2hR4uqQtV3ktK2uQ&oe=69DC2430

the government is part abrahamic death cult, part alice in wonderland bad LSD trip.

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/2041222561996951552/GPSkLegp?format=jpg&name=orig

"oh yeah, we're gonna wipe 'em off the face of the earth"

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unnamednewbie13
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trump going off on a tangent about the american military next to the easter bunny and the growly death and destruction and despair rant to the backdrop of the festivities was like some freaky hunger games stuff (no I haven't actually watched the movies) and nobody, who needs to be convinced, cares.
uziq
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it just blows my mind nobody has tried to impeach him based on his mental faculties. biden was harangued out of office for far less, and without the deadly consequences.
Dilbert_X
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Everything Trump has done has been a Republican/Neocon wet dream since before Reagan.
Its all been spun onto Trump's madness, but the GOP supports and allows everything and Trump has a 80% approval rating amongst Republican voters.

I'm sure the plan is for Trump to die before the next election and Vance, Rubio, Johnson etc can claim it was nothing to do with them, when in fact it was more to do with the grandees of the GOP than it ever was with Trump.

Trump's only agenda has been to make money, everything else is the GOP, and Netanyahu obviously.
Trump would never have come up with this stuff off his own bat.
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unnamednewbie13
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i remember being frequently told it was elder abuse keeping biden in office. as compared to the young and sprightly trump?

every time biden stumbled or misspoke or closed his eyes, it would come up again. where is all that Genuine Concern for trump in all this?

also apparently, harris was just too young and inexperienced? from commenters years her junior. obviously age isn't the real issue here!
Dilbert_X
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uziq wrote:

the cluelessness of the american executive really cannot be understated. they are really not very bright people.
While this has been happening there has been stuff going on in the background.

https://www.offshore-energy.biz/trumps- … -in-costs/

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/1 … t-00828164

https://www.whitehouse.gov/priorities/energy/

By declaring a national energy emergency and aggressively pursuing “drill, baby, drill” initiatives, the administration is ramping up domestic supply, cutting dependence on overseas energy, and bolstering national security through true energy dominance. These measures drive economic growth, empower American workers and manufacturers, and guarantee that energy abundance advances the national interest.

Neat trick, start a war, declare an emergency due to said war, remove all restrictions and gift billions upon billions to your sponsors.

Maybe Trump is playing 4D chess after all.
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unnamednewbie13
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"empower american workers"
uziq
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Dilbert_X wrote:

uziq wrote:

the cluelessness of the american executive really cannot be understated. they are really not very bright people.
While this has been happening there has been stuff going on in the background.

https://www.offshore-energy.biz/trumps- … -in-costs/

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/1 … t-00828164

https://www.whitehouse.gov/priorities/energy/

By declaring a national energy emergency and aggressively pursuing “drill, baby, drill” initiatives, the administration is ramping up domestic supply, cutting dependence on overseas energy, and bolstering national security through true energy dominance. These measures drive economic growth, empower American workers and manufacturers, and guarantee that energy abundance advances the national interest.

Neat trick, start a war, declare an emergency due to said war, remove all restrictions and gift billions upon billions to your sponsors.

Maybe Trump is playing 4D chess after all.
meanwhile china is miles ahead on green energy and is completely indispensable to the global supply chain. good luck spinning up those looms in massachusetts though.
unnamednewbie13
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renewable energy is still faced with a lot of sneering and upturned noses in america. some house or place puts solar panels on their roof. somehow in 2026 a solar panel is still an eyesore (as opposed to a thick cloud of smog, ya ok sure) installed by leftists falling for the green energy scam. they will sit down and listen to trump shit all over 'windmills' in wide-eyed acceptance, and predictably attempt to broach the topic from his angle later on.

it's been a long time in the making. popular media, for instance. people listened to south park more than climate scientists. instead of being well on our way to jetsons technology, we're on our way to idiocracy (tell me jfk jr isn't basically an 'it's what plants crave' guy). and it's by design. who wants a bunch of educated upstarts competing with the rich and influential?

the corporate dream:

https://mexiconewsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/amazon2.jpg

meanwhile some of the companies like this spit out shows about empowering the underclass or something idk. imagine someone stealing a fighter in protest of american-backed or conducted wholesale murders. would go down way differently than the star wars acts of heroism only on disney+.

never mind all that let's hear what else trump has to say about sharpie pens.

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uziq
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https://www.newstatesman.com/internatio … can-empire

whopper of a cover essay by john gray.

Last edited by uziq (2026-04-08 09:03:23)

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