unnamednewbie13
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this was brought up, too. the conservative used it to segue into a critique of reporting, after the customary moment of wheels turning in their head, "they want to reassure us that attacks aren't just random and a victim must have some sort of connection! i've been observing it in the press for years! every time?" fucking where? do i live in another universe and not know it? usually just says police are looking into a motive, right?

mac wrote:

don't engage
it's like having an unsolvable knot placed in front of you and being expected not to give it a few pokes. besides which, you interact with your conservatives, too.
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I have a feeling my assistant will probably be a little careful with engaging me with stuff after I berated her when she advocated for prayer in school. "Never talk about politics or religion with coworkers" I don't mind talking politics since it is a hobby and all that. But I guess religion is a hair-trigger.

In all seriousness though I think I gave away the fact that I am an atheist after that conversation. "Holiness and morality in my classrooms?!"
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Speaking of nonsense and death...
i haven't really paid attention to this because it seems the far-right are making a lot of hay out of it on X (pretty blonde ukrainian gets brutally and senselessly murdered by a criminal urban black, etc.)

it seems she got her throat cut by a stranger on public transport. everyone around did nothing but watch her bleed out (white as well as black bystanders).

if this was CCTV footage from china on liveleak circa. 2007, the comments would be full of people commenting on the inhumanity of the chinese and how their society is an empathy-free zone. seems america is basically operating at the same level thesedays. low/zero trust society. feral.

the worst thing is that she was a refugee from an actual warzone. probably relaxed to be finally in america and out of the shit. then she lets her guard down on a routine bus trip and some recidivist criminal garrottes her. unfortunately the worst people imaginable are trying to use this stuff for their narratives. and the other side have a handy narrative ready about 'black rage' and 'the failures of the criminal justice system'.

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Everyone thinks they'll stand up and do something, its very very rare.
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uziq
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oh i'm not suggesting otherwise in an actually charged/high-risk situation.

but the guy slit her throat as he was disembarking from the bus. they all just sat there and watched her bleed out for the next 5 minutes or whatever. pretty weird situation. shock likely the operative factor, of course.
unnamednewbie13
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the solution nobody is seeing is to not have a single american vista without national guardsmen standing around in it with their fingers on their triggers. trump knows what needs to be done, but the woke left keeps shutting him down! smh
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The NR article actually pointed out that a bunch of people did try to help her after a moment. There was nothing they could have done to help. If she was stabbed in an emergency room she still wouldn't have made it.

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Uzique wrote:

if this was CCTV footage from china on liveleak circa. 2007, the comments would be full of people commenting on the inhumanity of the chinese and how their society is an empathy-free zone. seems america is basically operating at the same level thesedays. low/zero trust society. feral.
It feels like moving goal post and changing the rules when convenient. On the one hand, "there is no such thing as a society and we are only responsible to ourselves."
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But when a bunch of blacks don't leap to their feet to provide aid and comfort to a person who blacked out from blood loss after 10 seconds then suddenly we live in a society.
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Yeah, you shouldn't get stabbed to death on a train. I will concede that point and not engage with the story beyond this place. But I don't believe strangers have a responsibility to get involved in public drama like this. I have seen a lot of people die when they wouldn't have had to if they just minded their own business like conservatives say we should when it is convenient to them.
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Dilbert_X
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Just a bit confused about why the Republicans are mad about Charlie Kirk being shot by a Mossad sniper who was whisked away by private jet.

Surely they should offer 'thoughts and prayers', shrug and walk away?
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My assistant has an attitude today. She wanted me to give some speech or something about the killing. The director sent an email about being thoughtful about it. Basically a warning put onto record. I basically downplayed it in class. Like 'that was terrorism and an assassination. It is sad and these things have a long history in America. It isn't the first and you will see more in the very long lives you have ahead of you." The assistant was still very upset and when I told her about the email she basically started rambling about freedom of speech. I didn't bother to explain the limits of freedom of speech and just walk away to do my 9/11 assignment.

In retrospect she is probably upset about 9/11 and then the guy got smoked yesterday. And I berated her after she tried to get me to talk about school prayer the day CK met God.


If I ever get killed...I want all of you to make jokes and clown on me. Don't respect my memory and or my family's privacy. If you go to my funeral and see someone you don't like, feel free to throw hands. Also don't go sober. Get fucked up and invite some hooker to go with you. It is what I would have wanted.
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an activist was arrested for *checks notes* "potential obstruction of justice."

but later released.

???

the cops can't stop harassing non-conservatives for half a nano-second after their arch-conservative gets shot in the neck. for pity's sake, a moment of silence for your guy.

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tmz getting shit apparently for laughter and applause in the broadcast about the shooting. this call for taking our hats off and navel-gazing over our "viciousness," and all the jerking off of kirk in death, i don't want to hear it. why do i need to be scrounging for grief i can process for a socially destructive, serial-lying, christian nationalist, conspiracy theorist, etc. etc., who even said people getting shot was an unfortunate sacrifice we have to make for guns? my grief is for the state of the country. why does america need to be a place where people get shot on the regular?

the temperature should be lowered in american discourse, but will there be any reciprocal effort from republicans? i know for a fact that conservatives would have applauded the murder of any elected democrats during the jan 6 riot. "but, but, alec baldwin once said," shut up.

lol, kirk and the crowd were going on about trans mass shooters at the time. "how many are there." "too many!" it's a real issue with those trans people!

amalgamation of conservative contacts wrote:

don't you think one is too many?
sure, we can entertain that long enough to circle back to all the times when you 1) knee-jerk in defense of religion when yet another molester clergyman is exposed, 2) float some theory of yours about how all the gays and trans may be unhinged whenever a gay or trans does a Bad Thing.

which is it that we're going with, then? that you can't paint people with such broad brushstrokes, or that it's fair game?

before or not long after kirk bled out, people decided that the shooter wanted christians to abandon their christian values or something stupid like that. already decided that the killer was definitely of some group they can comfortably denigrate. in the aftermath, trump even declared the guy a martyr for the cause.

mac wrote:

don't engage

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Instagram showed me some basic conservative bitch reel with the caption why did he stab a white girl instead of a black person

I reported it and expect nothing to happen. Insane

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We should strive for peace.

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4chan memes...furryism...antifascist.... not looking forward to the blowback.
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SuperJail Warden
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There won't be blow back. The right wing is already moving on after pictures of the shooter were released. Many are empathizing with the shooter and talk about mental health bullshit.

Charlie Cuck! The guy dedicated his life to conservatism. Died young for it. And now his political party is empathizing with his killer. The most cucked man who ever lived.
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it's an interesting direction for that to take. maybe it came about because people keep making fun of the irony of his 'necessary sacrifices for guns' stuff, and their only fallback is that it isn't guns being a factor in shootings, it's mental health. or maybe all that performative 'empathy' is leading into some other way to denigrate people.
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I would have expected more public acknowledgement of Ricky Hatton dying
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