must be a culture shock for the ‘would you like fries with that?’ crowd.
must be a culture shock for the ‘would you like fries with that?’ crowd.
Are you senile? We did this about a month ago.
What is even your point? That chart is about 50:50 technology:useless stuff.
What is even your point? That chart is about 50:50 technology:useless stuff.
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the point being that the popular refrain has been to 'do computer science' or 'do STEM' as common sense good advice.
when really it connects to no reality in any job market in the west any more.
when really it connects to no reality in any job market in the west any more.
A lot of tax breaks and subsidies that the Biden admin put into place as part of the CHIPS act either expired or were clawed back by the Trump admin for tax breaks. Then the DOGE thing happened and a lot of the Federal governments technical people got fired.
So there was a double whammy to STEM workers.
So there was a double whammy to STEM workers.

We literally did this already, pay in STEM is a lot higher and there's generally less underemployment in STEM.uziq wrote:
the point being that the popular refrain has been to 'do computer science' or 'do STEM' as common sense good advice.
when really it connects to no reality in any job market in the west any more.
There are the odd standouts like comp sci, but generally no.
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i don't think you grasp that an entire generation of people graduating today aren't going to find 'high-paying graduate STEM jobs'.
Well thats what happens if boomers ship all the investment and work in value-add industries overseas for short-term gain.
OTOH Comp-sci has always been a shit-show, for every graduate who gets a job at Intel there's 8192 doing IT support for a company which does non-tech stuff.
OTOH Comp-sci has always been a shit-show, for every graduate who gets a job at Intel there's 8192 doing IT support for a company which does non-tech stuff.
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IT does seem to be one of those many thankless (or short-term thanks) jobs. the stereotypes are rooted in truth. people expect what you fix to stay fixed. when it doesn't, it's your fault. when it does, they're paying you for nothing! decisions in your sphere of influence are made over your head, wrongly, and you get to deal with it when it goes south. this is true both at tech and non-tech companies.
but this is also true for non-IT maintenance people, right down to day porters and custodians, and many other jobs besides. i think computer people are a little off-base in their singled-out martyr complex. at least in IT you can roll out some antique memes like interocitor-usage.
but this is also true for non-IT maintenance people, right down to day porters and custodians, and many other jobs besides. i think computer people are a little off-base in their singled-out martyr complex. at least in IT you can roll out some antique memes like interocitor-usage.
I'm not criticising comp-sci people, it is indeed a thankless task with unlimited downside and no to little upside, they have to stay bang up to date with infinite systems and interactions between systems, interact with users etc.
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I would create an account to read this, but The Economist is pro-Israel so nah.
https://www.economist.com/finance-and-e … re-screwed
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