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have you read any of the studies, dilbert? there are fucking hundreds of clinical trials being undertaken at half a dozen top research institutions. how are they 'rehashing one guy's research'? do you even understand the practice of research? these 1000s of scientists aren't all relying on the same single dataset.

you are clueless. simply clueless. go and read something for a change and be quiet, little man.

And none of this is yet an argument for narcissistic teenagers to use drugs at parties.

you really do like making up straw men arguments. you've fabricated a conclusion about david nutt's position and now you're fabricating more. you're like a big spool of wooly bullshit.

david nutt's writings on drugs are not necessarily an argument for teetotalism. stating that alcohol is objectively more harmful than a range of other, highly classified, very illegal drugs != people should abstain from alcohol forever. it's an argument for drugs laws that make scientific sense. it's an argument for removing arbitrary legal barriers to drugs that could have therapeutic potential.

nobody working in the field of drugs research is claiming we should have a libertarian free-for-all and distribute party drugs to teenagers.

the ironic thing is that half of your 'noble leaders of society' are all fucking micro-dosing LSD and mushrooms every day. it's very much a cultural thing in silicon valley egghead circles. many of your rational superhuman engineering godmen are busy self-dosing themselves on psychedelics. you're ranting about narcissistic teenagers at parties whilst your own model human beings are partaking in the exact same thing, outside of a clinical context and without a medical professional in sight. lmao.

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/lsd-mic … con-valley
https://www.kron4.com/news/in-depth-why … osing-lsd/
https://www.ft.com/content/0a5a4404-7c8 … 3271d1ee9c
https://futurism.com/neoscope/ceo-fired-microdosing-lsd

there's even studies on this phenomenon! and not a 'nutt' in sight on the author lists.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-01811-4
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-81446-7
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7457631/

Last edited by uziq (2022-11-12 21:12:48)

because i think it would be an immense net plus to society if we developed a new modality of drugs/treatments? why would anyone want to arbitrarily restrict that? don't you think you're being a little, i don't know ... irrational? moralistic?

if psychedelics can post better results for depression and anxiety than the current batch of SSRIs, with all their deleterious side-effects and dependencies, why wouldn't i be encouraging of that?

you seem to be strangely religiose on the topic of drugs. it turns you into a thin-lipped suburban housewife who spends her sunday's with the rotarians, raising money for good christian causes. i'm following the science. drugs research is an interesting new frontier in contemporary research. it's no more or less interesting to me than AI/machine learning or the james webb space telescope. the only person 'droning on' about david nutt is you. i am not particularly interested in david nutt. it's been your particular line of attack to try and reduce every discussion about drugs to one guy's contributions or newspaper cuttings. he's practically a pharmaceutical george soros in your poxed anti-semitic imagination. i could not care less about the man. you claiming that every study or finding on drugs that contradicts your prejudices is all down to the dark malefic hand of david nutt really is next-level fucking kooky.

you're very good at fabricating tendentious arguments but not very interested in actual, concrete scientific evidence, it seems. have you read a single study? claiming that it's all re-presenting one guy's research is just so very silly. you're a grown adult. one with several science degrees, to boot. come on. try harder. it shouldn't be too taxing for you to run a search query on Nature or the new england journal of medicine. use your head. do better.

Last edited by uziq (2022-11-12 21:30:02)

again, you're pretty good at making things up in your own head.

funnily enough, cancer research is on the edge of new breakthroughs enabled by ... mRNA and gain of function research.

another topic you're very unscientifically dismissive of. funny how it all works, isn't it?

certainly never claimed everyone should take drugs.

you are a hypocrite for enjoying alcohol and constantly being judgmental about drug use. alcohol is a drug. alcohol is toxic. haven't we done this before?

i've consumed nothing but the same chemicals as you for the last 2–3 years. how does that make me 'drug addled'?

there's something very illiterate about saying someone has 'a brain like swiss cheese' when the drug you condone is directly, measurably neurotoxic.

Isn't that talking about hops and not alcohol? I think it is. The article itself calls alcohol a risk factor for the disease.

While the findings in no way suggest that people should drink more beer as alcohol is a risk factor for Alzheimer’s, researchers did find that hops could be the basis for foods that lessen the risk of neurodegenerative diseases.

Hops can also be found in herbal teas and soft drinks.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Nonsense

https://nypost.com/2022/11/07/does-beer … s-disease/

this is exactly what i'm talking about with you. i link scientific journals and you link the NY post. and you're supposed to be the one with a master's degree in a science, who talks constantly about the airheaded softness of humanities degrees. you really cannot make this shit up.

And the medically active content of most drugs isn't the bit which makes you high either.

Dilbert_X wrote:

And the medically active content of most drugs isn't the bit which makes you high either.

erm what lmfao

your point about hops is like arguing we should prescribe magic mushrooms on the NHS because they’re a good source of protein, or something.

consuming alcohol is bad for you. it is neurotoxic. it increases your chance of cancers. it kills brain cells when it crosses the blood-brain barrier. it’s as simple as that. if you want to make hops tea or talk about the nutrient value of a pint of stout, then that’s on you. i think you can find anti-oxidants or iron or whatever else in other food sources, though.

literally ‘psychedelic’ research is interested in the altered states achieved by the psychoactive components of the drugs, and their lasting effects on mental well-being. psilocybin and LSD are both either synthesised in a lab or extracted from their originary fungal forms.

can you please give a simple example of a drug being proposed for medicine/therapeutics where the active component isn’t the part under investigation? i can’t even get my head around this level of nonsense.

Last edited by uziq (2022-11-13 03:19:26)

https://twitter.com/sachee/status/15918 … 1OZHxJ_k3Q

picking a fight with this guy is maybe not the smartest move he’s ever made.

https://twitter.com/senmarkey/status/15 … 1OZHxJ_k3Q

Thankfully he is only breaking Twitter and nothing important.

uziq wrote:

lmao. elon abruptly shut down most of their microservices yesterday. he has it in his head that twitter’s problem is it is bloated and inefficient. and, being an engineer right, he’s going to fix that pronto.

The lowest brain of IT is to just shut everything down while people are in the middle of using it, because you have no idea what's wrong, how to fix it, and are unwilling to admit it was your fault.

Missing a DLL? Reformat your Windows drive.