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What about drag queen story hour? The gay agenda in our schools?
unisex toilets have been a thing in european cultures for ages.
ditto things like drag shows and a much more frank attitude about sexuality. there were jokes that one could access hardcore pornography on mainstream german or dutch tv channels right after the 9pm watershed even in the 1990s. europe is just so much less prudish about this stuff.
you need to visit europe. all this culture wars stuff about sexuality reeks of evangelical or puritanical zeal. itās a strictly american import.
ditto things like drag shows and a much more frank attitude about sexuality. there were jokes that one could access hardcore pornography on mainstream german or dutch tv channels right after the 9pm watershed even in the 1990s. europe is just so much less prudish about this stuff.
you need to visit europe. all this culture wars stuff about sexuality reeks of evangelical or puritanical zeal. itās a strictly american import.
Rishis Sunak - read Philosophy, Politics and Economics (PPE) at Lincoln College, Oxford
Liz Truss - read Philosophy, Politics and Economics at Merton College, Oxford
Fuck me what a choice.
Whether you think these subjects are relevant or not, and they aren't, more of the same stagnant theories from superior and entitled Oksferd toffs is not going to deliver Britain from the hole its in, bearing in mind people with the exact same background are what put Britain in this hole in the first place.
David Cameron - read Philosophy, Politics and Economics (PPE) at Brasenose College, Oxford
The last decade has been a disaster for Britain, it needs new thinking.
Liz Truss - read Philosophy, Politics and Economics at Merton College, Oxford
Fuck me what a choice.
Whether you think these subjects are relevant or not, and they aren't, more of the same stagnant theories from superior and entitled Oksferd toffs is not going to deliver Britain from the hole its in, bearing in mind people with the exact same background are what put Britain in this hole in the first place.
David Cameron - read Philosophy, Politics and Economics (PPE) at Brasenose College, Oxford
The last decade has been a disaster for Britain, it needs new thinking.
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conservative party is totally dysfunctional.
isnt PPE supposed to be the "i wanna be a politician" degreeDilbert_X wrote:
Rishis Sunak - read Philosophy, Politics and Economics (PPE) at Lincoln College, Oxford
Liz Truss - read Philosophy, Politics and Economics at Merton College, Oxford
Fuck me what a choice.
Whether you think these subjects are relevant or not, and they aren't, more of the same stagnant theories from superior and entitled Oksferd toffs is not going to deliver Britain from the hole its in, bearing in mind people with the exact same background are what put Britain in this hole in the first place.
David Cameron - read Philosophy, Politics and Economics (PPE) at Brasenose College, Oxford
The last decade has been a disaster for Britain, it needs new thinking.
it's a made-up course for aspiring politicians, yep. there are equivalents in the french bureaucrat machine ("enarques") and a few similar administration/governance-type courses at top universities in the states, australia, etc. but it's not a subject with any serious academic pedigree, taking as it does a sort of freshman #101 gloss of multiple disciplines and bending them in a very narrow/practical way towards making political careers. a smattering of philosophy, some barely scientific economics, a few book-report style essays on politics ... and you're away.
by far and away the most important thing about the course is that it's concentrated at 1 or 2 very small colleges at oxford, and the dons and course instructors are all connected to the westminster political machine in some way: be it policy thinktanks, lobbying, old boys' network, direct ties to party politics, etc. the right tutor at brasenose will get a good PPE graduate straight into the right special political advisor role in westminster, shadowing the right MP in the right party, etc. it's institutional networking at its most brazen. good recommendations and social ties are far more important than heavyweight intellection and academic smarts. most people who sail into the PPE degree are either ultra-privileged toffs from the public schools, who don't need to be smart and are going places in society anyway, or a smaller minority of 'grammar school dun good' kids who see PPE as a sort of 'vocational' course for their ticket to 'meritocracy' (ahem).
by far and away the most important thing about the course is that it's concentrated at 1 or 2 very small colleges at oxford, and the dons and course instructors are all connected to the westminster political machine in some way: be it policy thinktanks, lobbying, old boys' network, direct ties to party politics, etc. the right tutor at brasenose will get a good PPE graduate straight into the right special political advisor role in westminster, shadowing the right MP in the right party, etc. it's institutional networking at its most brazen. good recommendations and social ties are far more important than heavyweight intellection and academic smarts. most people who sail into the PPE degree are either ultra-privileged toffs from the public schools, who don't need to be smart and are going places in society anyway, or a smaller minority of 'grammar school dun good' kids who see PPE as a sort of 'vocational' course for their ticket to 'meritocracy' (ahem).
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yeah we got PPE degrees in aus as well, obvs from the oxbridge influences but i actually dont know of anyone who actually studied it.uziq wrote:
it's a made-up course for aspiring politicians, yep. there are equivalents in the french bureaucrat machine ("enarques") and a few similar administration/governance-type courses at top universities in the states, australia, etc. but it's not a subject with any serious academic pedigree, taking as it does a sort of freshman #101 gloss of multiple disciplines and bending them in a very narrow/practical way towards making political careers. a smattering of philosophy, some barely scientific economics, a few book-report style essays on politics ... and you're away.
by far and away the most important thing about the course is that it's concentrated at 1 or 2 very small colleges at oxford, and the dons and course instructors are all connected to the westminster political machine in some way: be it policy thinktanks, lobbying, old boys' network, direct ties to party politics, etc. the right tutor at brasenose will get a good PPE graduate straight into the right special political advisor role in westminster, shadowing the right MP in the right party, etc. it's institutional networking at its most brazen. good recommendations and social ties are far more important than heavyweight intellection and academic smarts. most people who sail into the PPE degree are either ultra-privileged toffs from the public schools, who don't need to be smart and are going places in society anyway, or a smaller minority of 'grammar school dun good' kids who see PPE as a sort of 'vocational' course for their ticket to 'meritocracy' (ahem).
but top kek at the neptotism, guess the class system is well and good in brexitopia.
well yeah thatās just about the most banal observation you could possibly make. the tory party are the party of the class system.
what an incredible use of Ā£120 million pounds. 200 refugees total.
may as well have sent them to a 5-star luxury resort in the caribbean for that money.
and to think that both leadership candidates are doubling down on the rwanda deportations talk.
conservative xenophobia: highly rational behaviour.
i mean peeps keep voting them in and they convinced the working class to as well.uziq wrote:
well yeah thatās just about the most banal observation you could possibly make. the tory party are the party of the class system.
dw about the rwanda deal, UK has a lot of lesson from australia when spending 1 million a year to house a refugee in an offshore island.
yeah, thatās exactly it. itās what marxians, and existentialists in their way, refer to as ābad faithā. sell an ideology to the proles that convinces then that if they give up all their immediate workerās rights and social safety net, consent to tax cuts on the rich and corporations, and hate the right brown people for a sporting distraction ā¦ that one day they can easily become capitalist overlords too! maybe their boss will one day cede everything to them and their class, out of the kindness of their heart.
If I were to choose an undergrad again I think I'd choose philosophy. The most useful humanities degree imo, everyone else borrows from their theories & frameworks.
certainly had a more open-ended concept of episteme than international relations ā¦
LMAO - I'm guessing the gammons are just realising their summer holiday just got harder.uziq wrote:
I don't know if Britons have always been stupid or if they got stupider.
Stupidness seems to have increased over the last 20 years or so, and may have coincided with an explosion in obesity - I call this period The Great Derpening.
Besides that there was a definite change in mood after the Tory sleaze exposure. That was barely into the millions. Wait until the plebs find out how many billions Johson gave to his Oksferd cronies and its a lot of billions.
The Iraq war cost ~GBP8B, Johnson has handed out ~GBP100B, amazing.
They're certainly stupid now.
Poll says Keir Starmer worse choice for PM than Boris Johnson - 12 June 22
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 … is-johnson
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If those 200 deter 20,000 its money well spent.uziq wrote:
what an incredible use of Ā£120 million pounds. 200 refugees total.
may as well have sent them to a 5-star luxury resort in the caribbean for that money.
and to think that both leadership candidates are doubling down on the rwanda deportations talk.
conservative xenophobia: highly rational behaviour.
Meanwhile in Italy
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62283202Nearly 1,200 undocumented migrants have arrived in Italy over the past 24 hours, authorities say.
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The landings come ahead of a fiercely contested Italian election, with opinion polls suggesting the far-right Brothers of Italy may gain enough seats to lead a right-leaning coalition.
Giorgia Meloni, the party's leader, has pledged to clamp down on migration. In the past she has caused controversy by advocating for a blockade of the Libyan coast to stop people smugglers launching towards the Italian coast.
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i donāt think you understand refugees if you think ādeterrenceā is a thing.
itās a home office sleight of hand to classify most refugees as migrants in all but the most limited circumstances, against all advice of human rights lawyers and charities in this sector.
read up on priti patelās home office instead of the usual detail-free blather that youāve gotten from tabloids.
read up on priti patelās home office instead of the usual detail-free blather that youāve gotten from tabloids.
Many of them are migrants though.
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i think it's very telling that you enjoy ranting at the iniquities, corruptions, venality, etc, of the modern-day populist form of toryism when it seems to lead to a negative outcome for white britons. you have no problem pointing to how compromised and self-serving, how intellectually bankrupt this party is when it comes to the direction they're leading the UK down.
but as soon as the same bunch of populist charlatans cook up a deportation regime that is every bit as inhumane as it is ineffective (i mean, rwanda for god's sake, talk about one of the most compromised and corrupted regimes; it's no accident that many other nations wouldn't touch this sort of arrangement with a barge pole) ... you have nothing but applause and approbation.
even if they are 'migrants', in your view, i don't think deterrence will work. how well-informed do you think these groups of people are? most of them have been preyed upon and abused at several points in the chain of their journey. do you think their human trafficking organisations are showing them a brochure of the centre in rwanda before taking their last dollar?
how did the 'deterrence' regime work with australia's arrangement with the similarly deplorable setup in PNG? why was it brought to an end if it was so highly effective? really make u think.
for a totally non-self-conscious, well-adjusted, happy nerd, you sure do like to see the rich and powerful punch down on the weak and the vulnerable.
but as soon as the same bunch of populist charlatans cook up a deportation regime that is every bit as inhumane as it is ineffective (i mean, rwanda for god's sake, talk about one of the most compromised and corrupted regimes; it's no accident that many other nations wouldn't touch this sort of arrangement with a barge pole) ... you have nothing but applause and approbation.
even if they are 'migrants', in your view, i don't think deterrence will work. how well-informed do you think these groups of people are? most of them have been preyed upon and abused at several points in the chain of their journey. do you think their human trafficking organisations are showing them a brochure of the centre in rwanda before taking their last dollar?
how did the 'deterrence' regime work with australia's arrangement with the similarly deplorable setup in PNG? why was it brought to an end if it was so highly effective? really make u think.
more of your tax money well spent, i presume?In 2017, Australia paid a A$70m (Ā£37m; $50m) settlement to over 1,900 detainees who had sued for harm suffered in detention.
for a totally non-self-conscious, well-adjusted, happy nerd, you sure do like to see the rich and powerful punch down on the weak and the vulnerable.
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It worked perfectly for Australia.
We still take refugees, although some of them are con-artists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murugappa … lum_claims
We still take refugees, although some of them are con-artists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murugappa … lum_claims
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australia's pacific solution and latterly the disastrous PNG/naura arrangements have made it the cynosure of the world when it comes to human rights abuses.
all to prevent and 'deter' a totally exaggerated threat and problem. the number of people arriving in australia from boats is a fraction of a fraction of regular non-white migration through the visa process.
good job at brutalizing some of the most vulnerable and desperate people, though.
all to prevent and 'deter' a totally exaggerated threat and problem. the number of people arriving in australia from boats is a fraction of a fraction of regular non-white migration through the visa process.
good job at brutalizing some of the most vulnerable and desperate people, though.