KEN-JENNINGS
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

A bunch of childless men complaining about not being able to get a procedure that they don't even qualify for. Poor you.
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Macbeth constantly reminding us every decision he makes and worldview he has is passed through the lense of his own self interest.
SuperJail Warden
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I read the first 20 pages of Ayn Rand's student version of Anthem. In the book Rand expertly pointed out that if something differs from my experience then I can object to it. Hence the term objectivism.
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KEN-JENNINGS
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You can't just joke away your garbage take.

That'll be a $25 donation to Planned Parenthood.
SuperJail Warden
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I work with kids. Planned parenthood should be sending me $25.
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Larssen
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RTHKI wrote:

Government gives the choice to the states. They'll all make reasonable laws with no bad consequences.
I think there's a discussion to be had about the concept of the US if you can't agree on some very basic human rights at the federal level.
SuperJail Warden
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Abortion is pretty complicated. Some people genuinely believe you are terminating a potential life.
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unnamednewbie13
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The more complicated part is the tyranny of people's religious opinions over other people's bodies.
pirana6
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Is another persons religion more important than my civil liberties? As of today, yes.
unnamednewbie13
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Isn't it funny how some people are pro genital mutilation if it's a baby, but as soon as it's a transgender person undergoing a cosmetic surgery, we've entered the end times?
SuperJail Warden
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You don't need to be a religious fundamentalist to want to protect innocent babies if you think abortion kills babies/potential babies.
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pirana6
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"I'm uncomfortable with it therefor everyone else should also be uncomfortable with it. Oh you're still fine with it? I want there to be a law to make you uncomfortable it. Btw I hate when people make laws forcing people to do or feel things"
unnamednewbie13
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

You don't need to be a religious fundamentalist to want to protect innocent babies if you think abortion kills babies/potential babies.
It would be willfully stupid to discount religious influence in this stuff. Don't you think it's funny how they care less about the baby after it's been born? The abortion thing is about control over other people.

Some people even call children arrows in the quiver. What a heck of a militant analogy. Your small human offspring, reduced to an inanimate, disposable missile. Who'd being shot with them? Schoolchildren? Grocery shoppers? Or just people attending gay pride events?

If I was a radical, militant Christian who wanted to dump liberals into the ocean out of a helicopter, I'd call children bullets in a magazine.

sex = lock & load

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SuperJail Warden
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiverfull


If you don't like slavery just don't own any slaves.

I know a lot of the opposition to abortion from religious fundamentalist was performative. That said I just don't know how you can not come to the conclusion that abortion eliminates a potential life.

I can see people 150 years from now questioning how we could have allowed abortion and eating meat to take place.
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Larssen
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no I don't think I'll subscribe to that reading of the future. 'Anti abortionism' basically means you demand unwanted children to be born to incapable or unwilling parents. It also implies there's a deeply embedded distrust in society of other people's capacity for ethical and moral thought when they're confronted with an unwanted pregnancy. It flies in the face of basic liberalism. I don't think any advanced ethical society would recognise greatness in forcing those who don't want to/can't provide into the role of provider. There's enough broken homes as it is.
unnamednewbie13
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How early do you take it, mac? Is every wasted sperm or unused egg a murder? The end of a potential life that a human should be incarcerated for?

People 150 years from now, in an expected climate 150 years from now, pulling their hair out over American family planning clinics in the 2020s. Are you high?
KEN-JENNINGS
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiverfull


If you don't like slavery just don't own any slaves.

I know a lot of the opposition to abortion from religious fundamentalist was performative. That said I just don't know how you can not come to the conclusion that abortion eliminates a potential life.

I can see people 150 years from now questioning how we could have allowed abortion and eating meat to take place.
Potential life.

If Potential lives are so important, why doesn't child support start at conception? Why is only the female punished, when the man is the one who triggers the pregnancy in the first place?

There is literally no logic to this decision. It is all about control.

You're too caught up in this weirdly stupid catholic angle when the reality is if these nutjobs had their way, it would be illegal for you to have sex with the 6's you're pulling off FB dating.
unnamednewbie13
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I think most people you could ambush on the street with a question about what happened 150 years ago haven't even given it a single thought since its two days of focus in high school. "Name one thing that occurred in the 1870s."

lmao

This really is one of the worst troll angles, mac.
SuperJail Warden
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150 years after the civil war people still complain about slavery. I am just saying that people in the future might look back at our times as being one where we cared so little for the sanctity of life that we aborted viable babies and industrialized the slaughter of animals for meat.

All of that said, I am pro-choice and a meat eater.
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unnamednewbie13
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Sweeping a lot of that aside, this still isn't really about the "sanctity of life," is it.

The slavery stuff is relevant to modern discourse because it and its aftermath have strongly shaped American society.

Don't you think that 150 years from now, people may be more preoccupied with finding ways to survive on a hostile planet?
SuperJail Warden
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Well abortion politics certainly shaped the relationship between the American people and the court.

Why are you so pessimistic? Maybe the future will better.
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KEN-JENNINGS
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

150 years after the civil war people still complain about slavery. I am just saying that people in the future might look back at our times as being one where we cared so little for the sanctity of life that we aborted viable babies and industrialized the slaughter of animals for meat.

All of that said, I am pro-choice and a meat eater.
People still complain about slavery because we live in a society where racism is still rampant. What thefuck are you talking about?
DesertFox-
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They'll really be able to stick it to the underclasses now. You can come from a poor area with overworked parents, get a shitty education because your area is poor, have terrible sex education, get pregnant and have to undergo the physical and financial burdens of a forced birth at minimum with the (you can always give them up for adoption angle), all the while avoiding the factors that push people into the prison-industrial complex. Just as God intended.
SuperJail Warden
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Let your heart not be troubled. Middle class white people will still be able to get their abortions. The red states will just have a bigger harvest of black people. Everything will be fine.
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unnamednewbie13
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wow
SuperJail Warden
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Everything will be fine

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