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I read the first 20 pages of Ayn Rand's student version of Anthem. In the book Rand expertly pointed out that if something differs from my experience then I can object to it. Hence the term objectivism.

I work with kids. Planned parenthood should be sending me $25.

Abortion is pretty complicated. Some people genuinely believe you are terminating a potential life.

Is another persons religion more important than my civil liberties? As of today, yes.

You don't need to be a religious fundamentalist to want to protect innocent babies if you think abortion kills babies/potential babies.

SuperJail Warden wrote:

You don't need to be a religious fundamentalist to want to protect innocent babies if you think abortion kills babies/potential babies.

It would be willfully stupid to discount religious influence in this stuff. Don't you think it's funny how they care less about the baby after it's been born? The abortion thing is about control over other people.

Some people even call children arrows in the quiver. What a heck of a militant analogy. Your small human offspring, reduced to an inanimate, disposable missile. Who'd being shot with them? Schoolchildren? Grocery shoppers? Or just people attending gay pride events?

If I was a radical, militant Christian who wanted to dump liberals into the ocean out of a helicopter, I'd call children bullets in a magazine.

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Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2022-06-24 12:53:20)

no I don't think I'll subscribe to that reading of the future. 'Anti abortionism' basically means you demand unwanted children to be born to incapable or unwilling parents. It also implies there's a deeply embedded distrust in society of other people's capacity for ethical and moral thought when they're confronted with an unwanted pregnancy. It flies in the face of basic liberalism. I don't think any advanced ethical society would recognise greatness in forcing those who don't want to/can't provide into the role of provider. There's enough broken homes as it is.

SuperJail Warden wrote:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiverfull


If you don't like slavery just don't own any slaves.

I know a lot of the opposition to abortion from religious fundamentalist was performative. That said I just don't know how you can not come to the conclusion that abortion eliminates a potential life.

I can see people 150 years from now questioning how we could have allowed abortion and eating meat to take place.

Potential life.

If Potential lives are so important, why doesn't child support start at conception? Why is only the female punished, when the man is the one who triggers the pregnancy in the first place?

There is literally no logic to this decision. It is all about control.

You're too caught up in this weirdly stupid catholic angle when the reality is if these nutjobs had their way, it would be illegal for you to have sex with the 6's you're pulling off FB dating.

150 years after the civil war people still complain about slavery. I am just saying that people in the future might look back at our times as being one where we cared so little for the sanctity of life that we aborted viable babies and industrialized the slaughter of animals for meat.

All of that said, I am pro-choice and a meat eater.

Well abortion politics certainly shaped the relationship between the American people and the court.

Why are you so pessimistic? Maybe the future will better.

They'll really be able to stick it to the underclasses now. You can come from a poor area with overworked parents, get a shitty education because your area is poor, have terrible sex education, get pregnant and have to undergo the physical and financial burdens of a forced birth at minimum with the (you can always give them up for adoption angle), all the while avoiding the factors that push people into the prison-industrial complex. Just as God intended.

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