BF2S Forums Pandemic thread

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

articles about social welfare, addressing climate change, pandemic relief, build back better: *exist*
conservatives: (clutching purse) "Where is the money going to come from?"
US: *nearly $800 billion defense budget*

you don't need to motion at the defense budget. the US (and, eventually, the EU) just printed trillions of dollars in relief funds for covid. of course, most of it went to big business and corporations, and notably to people like jeff bezos, but there we are.

the major crises of 2008 and covid-19 have shown that the neoliberal understanding, of world banks being there to regulate markets and avoid politics, is a complete illusion. in the face of crisis it is apparently completely fine for the world banks to make political interventions to 'keep the system running'. money machine go brrrr, etc etc.

America has more tax and spend money than most socialist countries.

I am in favour of hypersonic stealth fighters.

As the coronavirus pandemic approaches the end of a second year, the United States stands on the cusp of surpassing 800,000 deaths from the virus, and no group has suffered more than older Americans. All along, older people have been known to be more vulnerable, but the scale of loss is only now coming into full view.

Seventy-five percent of people who have died of the virus in the United States — or about 600,000 of the nearly 800,000 who have perished so far — have been 65 or older. One in 100 older Americans has died from the virus. For people younger than 65, that ratio is closer to 1 in 1,400.

Who doesn't hate kids tbh

Mentally ill

RTHKI wrote:

Mentally ill

Never heard of that movie. Looked up the ending. Downer. You know those were real right? Dance marathons during the Great Depression?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dance_marathon

Colleges still do them though the idea is to raise money for blah blah. I didn't remember colleges did them until I read the article and remembered seeing news about ones going on at my school back in 201X

so travel restrictions didn’t do anything to halt the spread of omicron. it’s taking off globally. china, australia, new zealand … pretty much every ‘model’ country to use stringent travel measures, before as now, couldn’t even attempt to keep it out before xmas/new years. ditto on its arrival in the U.K. 

it’s so prevalent and is so obviously doing its own thing regardless of human action/intervention, that the U.K. have just abandoned the pretence of its travel ban list. which makes perfect sense, considering how dumb it is to block travel from 11 african countries when omicron is, er, everywhere.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 … takes-hold

but dilbert, lo, claims it’s easy and practical to control its spread!

https://twitter.com/business/status/146 … 08450?s=21

Last edited by uziq (2021-12-14 08:43:35)

i'm sure tightening travel restrictions will stop the spread of omicron, considering its r-factor is estimated at between 3-5 at present.

if france even has a few hundred cases of omicron at present (they're reporting 170 so expect it to be 10x higher), closing the borders will do nothing. to retard the spread of such an infectious disease, you need full-scale lockdowns or circuit breakers at the very least. let's see how 'smart' and guided by scientific thinking the french are in coming weeks, shall we? i mean it's not like parisians can't spread it to one another on their packed metro system during rush hour and christmas shopping season.

many countries who have closed their borders are already reporting omicron cases/clusters.

still you seem to think that banning tourists is going to miraculously change the tide. incredible. about the best it will do is make a fractional difference to their caseload. best case scenario that could buy them some time for boosters or to prepare hospitals. but unlikely, considering that omicron is basically doubling itself every few days in any country posting numbers.

Last edited by uziq (2021-12-16 06:00:16)

china reports first known case of omicron amid fears of wider prevalence.
https://www.ft.com/content/a0457f43-0e8 … 2fc77e8905

what was that you were saying?

From Saturday all non-residents will have to give a compelling reason for travelling to France - tourism and non-urgent work do not qualify.

oh look, a chinese national returning from a business-trip, and who did 2 weeks quarantine and took multiple tests, ended up reporting positive for omicron. but good job france! your new policy of banning tourists will do it.

as was seen with the much less transmissible delta variant in new zealand, it only takes one case to seed an uncontainable cluster of 100s. omicron is an order of magnitude more infectious. your applause over banning tourists is just so funny. you're shouting into a gale, you moron.

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