Camm
Feeding the Cats.
+761|4938|Dundee, Scotland.
for a fatty you're a serious intellectual lightweight.
uziq
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you and your brother voted for brexit didn't you? if i recall correctly?

and you'll now probably vote for scottish independence now that brexit is delivering the shit sandwich you asked for.

scots need to be taught the idiom 'don't look a gift horse in the mouth'.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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I think its "don't shit on your own doorstep"
Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй!
SuperJail Warden
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Scottish independence and Irish reunification are both great ideas. The Basque and Catalans must be stopped though.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,810|6075|eXtreme to the maX
Maybe Northern Ireland could unify with Scotland.

Then no-one would be happy which is fine by me.
Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй!
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CVRLcVcvnmU/

Please watch this video and let me know what you think.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
unnamednewbie13
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That was a little uncomfortable to watch. I need more context.

This is a math class they say?
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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Yes, there is some math concept that uses a Native American sounding name.

The teacher was suspended for now while they investigate. There was a yearbook photo of her with the same headdress in 2012 with a blurb about doing the dance in math class.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
unnamednewbie13
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I would like teachers to have more freedom with classroom activities and such, but I wonder in what universe would this be a good idea for current times.

It feels like common sense should have made her think twice. Instead, we'll get a bunch of people on the internet complaining that she was canceled.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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If I was the kid I might've waited until the end of the school year to release that. What are they going to do if this teacher comes back with a vendetta.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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If you read the description on the video the kid complained that they "felt like violence was being committed against them". Good lord.

The kid will probably be moved, the teacher quietly reinstated after a dressing down, and life goes on but with this lady being probably embittered towards Native Americans. Mission accomplished?

My boss told me a story about a social studies group project at some state event way back when (but not ancient history) where the black kid was put up for auction. The story was a warning to "not do anything that will put you on CNN or Fox News".
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
unnamednewbie13
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

If you read the description on the video the kid complained that they "felt like violence was being committed against them". Good lord.

The kid will probably be moved, the teacher quietly reinstated after a dressing down, and life goes on but with this lady being probably embittered towards Native Americans. Mission accomplished?
Maybe the kid was violently embarrassed for everyone involved. Hard to watch to the point of physical pain.

If she comes out of the experience embittered, then maybe she'll have taken the wrong lesson. That's not the kid's fault. Where in the curriculum does it tell math teachers to put on a headdress and whoop around class? Did she adopt a native religion? Does she go to the events?

What was the point of this? Was she counting steps? Three hops to the right and a spin, "MATHS!" To what end? Imagine if a teacher did a blackface minstrelsy in the middle of a chemistry class.

People have had generations to change. I'm tired of hearing cautionary tales about how this will alienate people to blacks, or that will alienate people to gays.

Do kids still make cardboard feathers and do stupid Thanksgiving stuff?

My boss told me a story about a social studies group project at some state event way back when (but not ancient history) where the black kid was put up for auction. The story was a warning to "not do anything that will put you on CNN or Fox News".
That makes more sense in terms of teaching historical injustice, but still makes my alarm bells go off.
unnamednewbie13
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Camm
Feeding the Cats.
+761|4938|Dundee, Scotland.

uziq wrote:

you and your brother voted for brexit didn't you? if i recall correctly?

and you'll now probably vote for scottish independence now that brexit is delivering the shit sandwich you asked for.

scots need to be taught the idiom 'don't look a gift horse in the mouth'.
No, I voted remain, and if there's a new referendum, I'll be voting no.
for a fatty you're a serious intellectual lightweight.
Larssen
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stay out
uziq
Member
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Camm wrote:

uziq wrote:

you and your brother voted for brexit didn't you? if i recall correctly?

and you'll now probably vote for scottish independence now that brexit is delivering the shit sandwich you asked for.

scots need to be taught the idiom 'don't look a gift horse in the mouth'.
No, I voted remain, and if there's a new referendum, I'll be voting no.
hmm i remember that little turncoat finlay spreading anti-english sedition in the public spaces of yonder realm.
Camm
Feeding the Cats.
+761|4938|Dundee, Scotland.

uziq wrote:

Camm wrote:

uziq wrote:

you and your brother voted for brexit didn't you? if i recall correctly?

and you'll now probably vote for scottish independence now that brexit is delivering the shit sandwich you asked for.

scots need to be taught the idiom 'don't look a gift horse in the mouth'.
No, I voted remain, and if there's a new referendum, I'll be voting no.
hmm i remember that little turncoat finlay spreading anti-english sedition in the public spaces of yonder realm.
I'm just salty that I had to pay an extra 10 grand in tax to the SNP just to own a second home in Scotland.

Last edited by Camm (2021-10-22 03:49:46)

for a fatty you're a serious intellectual lightweight.
uziq
Member
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having a second home in scotland is like having two, rather than one, boyfriends in prison.

if you're into 'second home' territory why in the fuck wouldn't you buy in a nice place like dorset or cornwall?

or is your ambition in life to become a slumlord?
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
+634|3689

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

If you read the description on the video the kid complained that they "felt like violence was being committed against them". Good lord.

The kid will probably be moved, the teacher quietly reinstated after a dressing down, and life goes on but with this lady being probably embittered towards Native Americans. Mission accomplished?
Maybe the kid was violently embarrassed for everyone involved. Hard to watch to the point of physical pain.

If she comes out of the experience embittered, then maybe she'll have taken the wrong lesson. That's not the kid's fault. Where in the curriculum does it tell math teachers to put on a headdress and whoop around class? Did she adopt a native religion? Does she go to the events?

What was the point of this? Was she counting steps? Three hops to the right and a spin, "MATHS!" To what end? Imagine if a teacher did a blackface minstrelsy in the middle of a chemistry class.

People have had generations to change. I'm tired of hearing cautionary tales about how this will alienate people to blacks, or that will alienate people to gays.

Do kids still make cardboard feathers and do stupid Thanksgiving stuff?

My boss told me a story about a social studies group project at some state event way back when (but not ancient history) where the black kid was put up for auction. The story was a warning to "not do anything that will put you on CNN or Fox News".
That makes more sense in terms of teaching historical injustice, but still makes my alarm bells go off.
Do you think she deserves to get fired? Lose her license? Do you think it is okay for her name to be on Google forever as a "racist"?

Part of the issue with this stuff is that the punishments are often overboard. There is no way to make things right. People don't even accept apologies.

Also

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCPUMEuVUBAJx_h?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCPUMEuUcAI1G0a?format=jpg&name=medium
https://external-preview.redd.it/u1vbvmcym4V94HMwSKNbyjLOXkZKUssHN6eQxFgKzi8.jpg?auto=webp&s=18ac5f50ef8597d0efa86548b3850d31141a34e2
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
uziq
Member
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these stories are so pointless and are often just obvious flares to distract from real discussion of the issues.

anyone who gets seriously vexed over stuff like this is a retard.
Camm
Feeding the Cats.
+761|4938|Dundee, Scotland.

uziq wrote:

having a second home in scotland is like having two, rather than one, boyfriends in prison.

if you're into 'second home' territory why in the fuck wouldn't you buy in a nice place like dorset or cornwall?

or is your ambition in life to become a slumlord?
Because I wanted a family home, not a small holiday cottage.
for a fatty you're a serious intellectual lightweight.
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
+1,736|6707|Oxferd Ohire
Doc thinks my hears fine. No tests showed issues. duno what happened though.

Good for now anyway get to re-try exercising
https://i.imgur.com/tMvdWFG.png
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6741|PNW

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Do you think she deserves to get fired? Lose her license? Do you think it is okay for her name to be on Google forever as a "racist"?

Part of the issue with this stuff is that the punishments are often overboard. There is no way to make things right. People don't even accept apologies.
No. She doesn't strike me as racist so much as oblivious. But this would have probably raised some eyebrows when I went to school. There's a lot of years of people wanting this sort of thing to stop, and it all went over her head.

You're going into admin, what would you recommend if an apology doesn't work? Transfer the student to another class or school? Or transfer the teacher to another school?
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
+634|3689

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

You're going into admin, what would you recommend if an apology doesn't work? Transfer the student to another class or school? Or transfer the teacher to another school?
The teacher and the kid can't be in the same class. Transferring the kid(s) would be seen as retaliation against the kid(s) and would make the situation much worse.

Put the teacher on paid leave for the rest of the year while 'we investigate'. Have her take some sensitivity training, and apologize.



also
https://i.redd.it/a0n805jzj0v71.jpg

Last edited by SuperJail Warden (2021-10-22 19:22:36)

https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6741|PNW

So I guess she was chanting SohCahToa (sine=opposite/hypotenuse; cosine=adjacent/hypotenuse; tangent=opposite/adjacent), the trigonometry mnemonic. I don't know why I didn't catch that before, but maybe the video was so surreal that it pulled me out of the mindset.

I understand turning it into a stereotype chant to help drive it in, but that sounds like a strategy best left in your own head and not turned into a big show in your classroom, whether or not it has a native american student.

e:
I wonder if it was really an indian thing in her mind, or if she was doing some sort of bizarre neo-pagan ritual.

In another clip, she is seen sitting cross-legged on her desk, appearing to pray to a "water goddess" while stifling laughter.
https://news.yahoo.com/california-teach … 25060.html

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2021-10-23 15:06:10)

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