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uziq
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as of today, 1 in every 500 americans has died of covid.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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Unmasked boomer walking around Dunkin Donuts. Gave a big congestion cough right behind me. Glad I was masked up even though the mandate ended.
unnamednewbie13
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That's been annoying since before the pandemic. I don't know that it's just perennial congestion and that you don't have some sort of transmissible disease. Like, cover your mouth and turn away while in line or leering over the produce. And wipe that insulted look off your face. Nobody wants your spittle and phlegm on the back of their neck or on the broccoli, or flying across the local restaurant to land on your $18 lunch.

Not to mention this newer trend of stalker-coughing as a form of harassment, or the "I'm immunizing your babies" shit.

My local donut place has a small lobby, but a drive thru window. I use the drive thru and just tell the donut people to pick whatever for the box, in addition to a few specifics if they have any. Never had complaints about the results.

German bakery, people were still following social distancing like military drill last I went for rye.

Speaking of restaurants, hard to not be affected by the Kitchen Nightmares stuff and social media posts from food workers at some of the grossest kitchens ever. I'll favor the places where you can watch them make it, at the very least.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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I am pretty sure intentionally coughing on someone is a crime now. Spitting has been a crime for awhile. Have you ever had a nurse inspect your hands and face for open wounds because someone spit on you? Not a fun feeling asking if Hep C is transmittable through salvia.

I don't care to watch someone make my food. I wouldn't want someone watching me work on their car. I would be annoyed if I saw a worker not wear a hair net or hat. I saw one worker make a sandwich with wild hair all over the place. The food came back with hair and I had to return it.

If I don't see you with a hair net:
https://external-preview.redd.it/CUd8PqBW4_Xt1gLeLu1uPUavg24u-0dJ6yCLkPP4cEw.jpg?auto=webp&s=9dc593be97c064d1939f970f76666ee3e1581a72
RTHKI
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Guy at work who spent 3 weeks at home with covid is scared about the vaccine mandate.
https://i.imgur.com/tMvdWFG.png
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
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Went to get a covid test. Only testing sites are pharmacy drive thrus. After getting the site to work I spent 30min in line with no movement. I left with no covid test and pissed off.

Too long of a wait is actually a cancellation reason lol.

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unnamednewbie13
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Care cup is about empty for people getting scammed when they overshare personal information with fake vax card makers. Still feel bad that they're dumb or uneducated or deeply entrenched in the partisan nonsense enough to fall for any of the stuff in the antivax low-rung Republican denialism sphere of influence. And also for family who knows better, kids, and other innocents they might interact with or intentionally cough at.

None of it of course, diminishing my anger against the misinformation campaigns.

I already know what the takeaway is going to be for some conservative friends I won't bother bringing this stuff up with. "The CDC has created a nightmare! See how vulnerable people are because of these stupid cards! Arrogant Federal Government, rabble rabble!" I don't think my imagination is being stretched all that much either.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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When can I get my Moderna booster? I got my second dose in April. I am ready.


Also, when boosters are ready but only for old people first.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+1,917|5822|USA

One guy brought up how the right's politicization of the coronavirus was dumb and a bad idea. For once, I didn't disagree. Until he warped it into the Democrats-at-fault "this has got to be a superweapon stuff and we need to admit it," er. Yeah just because I agree with your first point doesn't mean I'm going to cheat at connect-the-dots and agree with your second. It wouldn't have worked on me if you segued from countermeasures hesitancy into CRT either.

I really don't understand the reasoning. Was I really supposed to have been tricked into agreeing with a point he was obfuscating under the cover of the first? Like, "haha, I was talking about Chinese bioweapons and Democrat conspiracies all along, no take-backs!" wtf.

"Point 2: not really relevant." "Oh, is that what you think? It's totally relevant!"

Do I need a C&D or something?
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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It is plausible the Chinese accidentally let COVID escape from a lab. But a bioweapon? Nah. The American right wing could have segued this thing into some broad global anti-China movement but instead they followed Trump into the denial abyss. Another missed opportunity. The "blame China" ship sailed awhile ago.
uziq
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the controversial research to force mutations in highly dangerous viruses (gain-of-function research) has been partially funded by the US. even if it does take place in places with conveniently lax standards about research ethics like wuhan. that's a pretty unpalatable fact about the 'china lab leak' theory.

This body did give money to an organisation that collaborated with the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

That organisation - the US-based EcoHealth Alliance - was awarded a grant in 2014 to look into possible coronaviruses from bats.

EcoHealth received $3.7m from the NIH, $600,000 of which was given to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

In 2019, its project was renewed for another five years, but then pulled by the Trump administration in April 2020 following the outbreak of the coronavirus pandemic.
https://theintercept.com/2021/09/09/cov … -research/

if i recall correctly, fauci did move to deny that this funding and collaboration went specifically to 'gain-of-function' research, but it seemed more like a semantics argument than a substantive rejection. whoops. the idea that evil china is developing 'biological superweapons' and intentionally infecting the world is pretty dumb when you consider the actual nature of modern collaborative research. there's US research investment in the wuhan lab.

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SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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uziq wrote:

the controversial research to force mutations in highly dangerous viruses (gain-of-function research) has been partially funded by the US. even if it does take place in places with conveniently lax standards about research ethics like wuhan. that's a pretty unpalatable fact about the 'china lab leak' theory.

This body did give money to an organisation that collaborated with the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

That organisation - the US-based EcoHealth Alliance - was awarded a grant in 2014 to look into possible coronaviruses from bats.

EcoHealth received $3.7m from the NIH, $600,000 of which was given to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

In 2019, its project was renewed for another five years, but then pulled by the Trump administration in April 2020 following the outbreak of the coronavirus pandemic.
https://theintercept.com/2021/09/09/cov … -research/

if i recall correctly, fauci did move to deny that this funding and collaboration went specifically to 'gain-of-function' research, but it seemed more like a semantics argument than a substantive rejection. whoops. the idea that evil china is developing 'biological superweapons' and intentionally infecting the world is pretty dumb when you consider the actual nature of modern collaborative research. there's US research investment in the wuhan lab.
The U.S. investment in Wuhan's lab is the connection to blaming democrats that makes the story inconvenient to a lot.

It doesn't matter at this point anyway. The Chinese didn't force us to make all of the poor decisions we did. We have/had everything we need to successfully end the pandemic. Like most things afflicting this haunted country, solving the issue is more a matter of willpower than hard science.

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