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War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+562|5761|Purplicious Wisconsin
Then what is the fucking point of monuments if they are going to be removed anyway? Do we want to set the trend of monument replacing moments every generation or so?

We may as well not bother with monuments anymore if they are just going to removed down the road anyway whenever political agendas shift.

Last edited by War Man (2018-09-13 23:53:43)

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
+489|2767
Monuments are for the living. The dead don't care.
coke
Aye up duck!
+440|5756|England. Stoke

War Man wrote:

Then what is the fucking point of monuments if they are going to be removed anyway? Do we want to set the trend of monument replacing moments every generation or so?

We may as well not bother with monuments anymore if they are just going to removed down the road anyway whenever political agendas shift.
It's all relative, I've got monuments within 5 mins drive of house that are older than your country, there were others even older that have been removed/destroyed by previous "generations" that didn't "agree" with them...
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
+489|2767
I don't think Cuomo should resign. I mean I wouldn't trust him with my grandmother, and any reproductively capable female relative but otherwise be has done a good job as governor.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
+489|2767
One of the worst political photos I have ever seen. Cuomo looks like the devil trying to suck that young lady's soul out of her body.
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/03/cuomo-ruch-1.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=681
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+1,915|5819|USA

It's an amazing picture that captures the discomfort of these moments flawlessly. Give him a hood and you'd have one of those soul-sucking ring wraith things from Harry Potter.

Why'd you self-censor your documentary thread?

e: Andrew Cuomo was named one of People's Sexiest Men Alive in 2020, as well as one of the most "desirable man in New York City."
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
+489|2767
NY legalized weed and all it took was a dozen or so uncomfortable women.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
+489|2767
Thoughts on the Cuomo investigations? Should he resign?
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,920|5679|949

Of course he should.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
+489|2767
I feel that the voters should decide but at the same time retaliation against the one girl who spoke out is very bad business.

I am also vampiric towards women I work with so I can't pass too much judgment on Cuomo.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+1,915|5819|USA

Will he return to his old life guarding Azkaban as a dementor, though.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,920|5679|949

I think the allegations are numerous and credible enough to warrant removal. He should also face legal consequences if found guilty, and that doesn't change because he holds a positions of power.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
+489|2767
How are you voting in the recall?
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,920|5679|949

Probably won't vote in it.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,745|5153|eXtreme to the maX
If its OK for the American President to grope women and rape pornstars I think its OK for a minor politician to touch women on the back.
#FreeBritney
uziq
Member
+405|2500
it's unfortunate that sexual misconduct, harrassment and abuse quickly becomes a bipartisan issue. it seems like so many politicians, of all stripes, have skeletons in their closet. probably why we need more women in positions of power and more women representatives. a lot of powerful guys who seem to have 10+ settlements hushed up in their past. not a healthy work culture or social dynamic.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
+489|2767
Well that's a rap. Way to fall Cuomo. They were talking about this dude running for president this time last year.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,920|5679|949

His "I never crossed the line in my mind but I also didn't realize how far that line moved recently" is such a pissant excuse. Fuck him.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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I still believe he probably had a 50/50 chance at re-election. That said over a decade in office is long enough. His family of vampires need not haunt New York State any longer. His younger brother might get booted from CNN over this too.

One reason why his support in NY state collapsed so quickly is because he was bully and thug in how he had handled things. He had a poor relationship with Democrat leaders before all of the creep stuff. His resignation is in part a repudiation of his management style.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,745|5153|eXtreme to the maX

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

His "I never crossed the line in my mind but I also didn't realize how far that line moved recently" is such a pissant excuse. Fuck him.
Don't just lightly grope women, grab them by the pussy - this is where Cuomo went wrong.

I hear this all the time from miserable old codgers - "That isn't how we did it in the '60s, are you really expecting me to change?"
#FreeBritney
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
+489|2767
NYT article discussing the disconnect between Cuomo's advocacy for women's reproductive rights and his private behavior.
In 2012, Mr. Cuomo released a 10-point “Women’s Equality Agenda” that eventually led to a package of laws aiding the fights against workplace and salary discrimination and domestic violence. His efforts escalated after Donald J. Trump was elected president and female voters emerged at the forefront of the opposition to the new administration. On the day that women marched against Mr. Trump’s inauguration, Mr. Cuomo announced that his administration would require health insurers to cover medically necessary abortions and most forms of contraception at no cost — essentially safeguarding protections that Republicans were trying to repeal.

In 2019, he signed the Reproductive Health Act, which enshrined the right to abortion in New York State in case Roe v. Wade were overturned, expanded access to abortions, and allowed abortion after 24 weeks to protect the mother’s health or if the fetus was not viable. He also signed legislation extending the statute of limitations for rape in New York State.

And in August 2019, he signed sweeping anti-sexual-harassment legislation that supporters said would make New York’s laws among the nation’s strongest.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/11/us/p … ights.html

I actually don't expect the new lady governor of NY state to get very much done to advance a feminist agenda because she is a woman. I don't mean that as a knock on women politicians but minorities advancing a minority agenda usually doesn't go over well. If you want this stuff to end up in the law books and stick, you need mean white guys to be the one's proposing and advancing it. However unfair that is to minorities isn't the point, the law gets on the books. Minorities (mainly women [I doubt the blacks were very angry about uncomfortable upper class white women]) will come to regret that Cuomo isn't in Albany sucking the souls out of Columbia's school of politics graduates.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/210302113730-01-anna-ruch-andrew-cuomo-super-tease.jpg
uziq
Member
+405|2500
i don’t think politicians need a perfect accord between their public endeavours and private life tbh. literally every civil rights leader in history had some sort of dirt in their own interpersonal dealings.

cuomo is a dirtbag and a sexual abuser, almost no question at this point, but there’s something facile about calling into question their politics because of their private life. this sounds like – and i don’t mean to draw an equivalency between the two figures – like when the FBI tried to smear MLK by publicising that he cheated on his wife. as if private shit behaviour cancels out any political legacy. it doesn’t.

there’s of course something galling in the discrepancy between politicians’ public edicts and their private acts. but the whole game is bluster and presentation. always has been. and never will be anything different.

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