uziq
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they are not right at all. biden massively contributed to flattening the curve and getting on top of it. he released the resources and means necessary to scale-up and roll-out vaccination. wasn't that what YOU were complaining about with trump's federal response all along? that he hamstrung and crippled the response unnecessarily?

i know you like to be contrarian, but come on now. the biden administration has behaved like an actually competent government in the face of the crisis. nevermind that he was handed the disaster response equivalent of a flaming paper bag full of dog shit.

i agree that further lockdowns are highly unlikely, with the current picture (a new variant yet again could seriously complicate things). it seems that widespread vaccination has effectively broken the link between cases and hospitalizations/deaths, thus bringing the recurring (annual?) cycle down to manageable levels. this was always the only viable endgame: promote widespread immunity through vaccination and bring it under control to endemic levels, similar to flu.
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^mostly this

Trump reacted poorly to the virus, and made things worse at just about every turn. He made it political, from the very start! Even PPE aid was held hostage by red vs. blue. "The virus was made political and used against us!" from the Trump camp is like complaining that you stubbed your toe on furniture while dancing barefoot in a coffee table warehouse, with the lights off.

Biden is also somewhat hampered by uncooperative Republicans, even in terms of wanting to do things you'd think Republicans on the surface would like (infrastructure investment). Trump actively works to undermine the legitimacy of Biden's presidency, and keeps floating the idea that he will take over again outside of elections.

That we have this group of commentors carrying on about the evil vaccine, while having received it themselves, doesn't help. Unchecked misinformation on social media and the poison feeds of stuff like Fox, Newsmax, etc.

Over 600,000 Americans dead and people will still scramble to bring up something Obama or Clinton did in order to steer a conversation away from the frequently inconvenient truths about Trump's legacy, and catastrophic last year in power.
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I hate Trump and agree that he got a lot of innocent people killed. That said, I just don't believe Biden has done anything significant to turn this whole thing around that any other democrat wouldn't have done. And it hasn't turned around as much as we think. 200,000 is still a lot of dead.

I would rate Biden's COVID handling a B+ probably due to Trump's F screwing up the curve. I am overall pretty pleased with the Biden presidency. Please send more stimulus.
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The momentum of 2020 was never going to be stopped in the first few months of 2021 unless we elected a god.

That said, you gave credit to Trumpers accusing the covid stuff of "being used" to take down Trump. Trump took himself down. If he had his head on straight, 2020 might not have been such a massive fuckup and he'd have gotten reelected.
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https://twitter.com/red_dilettante/stat … 50627?s=21

magnificent deep dive on cuba’s escalating crisis.
unnamednewbie13
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I'm going to edit a really interesting thing down from one of the discord channels in my list:

Hey @everyone , it's been brought to my attention that #[name] here in our vendor hall is using 100% of their sales money to help their Father fight Stage 4 Lymphoma Cancer. So much of the community came together to help me out when my Mom passed away earlier this year so please if you could, take a look at their shop / commissions
I know neither explicitly said they were American, but it is still so very American. For awhile, the gofundme people being sad about how many sad fundraisers there were on their platform hit peak meme circulation.

There has to be a better way!

https://img-cdn.brainberries.co/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/infomercial-gifs-01.gif
SuperJail Warden
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uziq wrote:

https://twitter.com/red_dilettante/status/1414626287239450627?s=21

magnificent deep dive on cuba’s escalating crisis.
Cuban Americans voted for Trump twice. Cuban Americans are the kapos of Hispanic people. If democracy in Cuba is the thing that fixes the mental illness of the Cuban American community then great. If not, Cuba remaining communist is my preference. 50% because I know a revolution will make things worse in Cuba and 50% out of spite for Cuban Americans.
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Dilbert_X
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I'm going to edit a really interesting thing down from one of the discord channels in my list:

Hey @everyone , it's been brought to my attention that #[name] here in our vendor hall is using 100% of their sales money to help their Father fight Stage 4 Lymphoma Cancer. So much of the community came together to help me out when my Mom passed away earlier this year so please if you could, take a look at their shop / commissions
I know neither explicitly said they were American, but it is still so very American. For awhile, the gofundme people being sad about how many sad fundraisers there were on their platform hit peak meme circulation.

There has to be a better way!

https://img-cdn.brainberries.co/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/infomercial-gifs-01.gif
Socialised healthcare is socialist though.
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unnamednewbie13
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meanwhile, in 2021

https://i.imgur.com/5cr1Esa.jpg
Dilbert_X
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Which is hilarious, how do gays get on in muslim countries? Trans people?
How do muslims get on in other countries?
How do most races get on in countries dominated by any race other than white?

But yeah of course, being a white conservative is bad.
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unnamednewbie13
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Big whoosh energy.
uziq
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dilbert: white western culture created the highpoint of civilization, with the most advancement and cooperation.
also dilbert: lol why should liberal democracies be accountable? look at this theocracy in the middle-east!
Dilbert_X
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When have I said liberal democracies shouldn't be held accountable?
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SuperJail Warden
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Being Muslim is very different from being born gay. Gay people need our support and friendship because they are born that way. And it is clear no one should have to suffer for being the way they are born. Being Muslim is a choice though. At least in our part of the world. And it is the wrong choice.
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uziq
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Dilbert_X wrote:

When have I said liberal democracies shouldn't be held accountable?
what do you think protest is?
Dilbert_X
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I haven't said people shouldn't protest, what I've said is people should try not to loot TVs at the same time, it gives protest a bad image.
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Dilbert_X
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Being Muslim is very different from being born gay. Gay people need our support and friendship because they are born that way. And it is clear no one should have to suffer for being the way they are born. Being Muslim is a choice though. At least in our part of the world. And it is the wrong choice.
Children are brainwashed too early to be able to make a choice.

It should be illegal to discuss religion with children until at least they've figured out Santa Claus is fiction.
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SuperJail Warden
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For the first time in 109 years, an Olympic gold medal was shared in athletics after high jumpers Mutaz Essa Barshim of Qatar and Gianmarco Tamberi of Italy chose to both become champions.
...
With the Olympic record of 2.39m the next level, Barshim and Tamberi instead spoke with officials about whether they even needed to enter a jump-off to decide gold.

“Do we have to go?” the Qatari jumper was heard asking.

The pair then shook hands and celebrated as joint gold medallists.
Wow, just when you think standards in sports in America can't get any  lower. Now athletes want trophies without even competing and earning them. This is what happens when you cuddle young people.
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Dilbert_X
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n a statement on Sunday, UK Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab said London believed Iran had used one or more drones against the MV Mercer Street, calling it "deliberate, targeted, and a clear violation of international law".

"Iran must end such attacks, and vessels must be allowed to navigate freely," he added.

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Washington was also "confident that Iran conducted this", and that an "appropriate response" would follow.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-58048007

Well thats funny, when Israel sends drones to kill Iranian scientists its OK and no response is needed.
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I don't mean to sound unpatriotic or anything but what about the US killing that one general.
uziq
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Dilbert_X wrote:

I haven't said people shouldn't protest, what I've said is people should try not to loot TVs at the same time, it gives protest a bad image.
how many times have i linked you the harvard meta-study that found that approx. 93% of all BLM protests were entirely peaceful?

yet still you repeat tabloid lines about 'looters out for TVs'.

mr. science genius.

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uziq
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Dilbert_X
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99.9% Of card carrying nazis never pushed anyone into a gas chamber, they were just in it for the career opportunities and the networking.

I didn't even mention BLM you one-eyed self-hating cretin.
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unnamednewbie13
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What other protests have you been incessantly referencing for the past year+.
uziq
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Dilbert_X wrote:

99.9% Of card carrying nazis never pushed anyone into a gas chamber, they were just in it for the career opportunities and the networking.

I didn't even mention BLM you one-eyed self-hating cretin.
seeing as i mentioned protest as a form of democratic accountability ... and BLM is the single biggest protest movement in the last 10 years ...

you keep trying to liken BLM activists to nazis. it's just a bit odd, don't you think?  likening fascists and nationalists to people who want to ... reform the police/justice system and get better representation?

do you really need this to be fucking explained to you?

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