BF2S Forums Religions of the world Thread

I think one of our worst failings through the latter half of the 20th century and the beginning of the 21st is that we somehow consider democracy a prerequisite for good governance. Myanmar looks to be another country that will go to shit because their civil society, bureaucratic and democratic institutions just weren't developed in a way that they could sustain a stable democracy. This goes for both the rule of aung san suu kyi and the military coup of the last week.

Last edited by Larssen (2021-02-09 11:13:24)

What do you mean 'never had good governance'. Literally every part of the world had their own golden age at some point.

but problematic. correlation ≠ causation.

Trump could be literal Randall Flagg with glowy red eyes and demonic powers and he'd still be considered necessary for God's Plan for the USA.

4000 years ago, when middle eastern civilisations were flourishing while the rest of the world was still tribal...

You seem to project the current situation on both the past and future. Dilbert, if you read any history book at all you'd understand that things change. The fact that Europe and Australia are stable today does not mean they still will be in 50, 100, 150 years' worth of time. The fact that there have recently been several wars in the ME does not imply the region can never recover. This notion that the qualities of a people are inherent to them is blatantly false. 4000 years ago we were throwing sticks and stones at eachother while in the ME you already had functioning empires with complex economies, scientific communities and architectural achievements that still stand today.

But I guess that must be a painful truth to confront if you insist that hwite ppl are genetically superior to all the others. Why then did it take us several thousand years to catch up and did we only get ahead when the renaissance came? Perhaps, Dilbert, there's other factors to consider than your dumbshit eugenics argument...

Meanwhile, Indians are importing the caste system to Australia.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-11/ … s/13135622

Honestly fuck off.

This is probably the only map that really matters

I always did think New Zealand was way better than Australia.

Larssen wrote:

You can read a map but you really have no idea of the why.

So who does?

Pretty well all those countries have experienced democracy and regressed.

Pretty well all = almost all

Well its funny, pretty well every colonial country had "institutions to support it" put in place, they were all burned down or corrupted when the europeans left.

In the places the europeans remain the institutions are still functioning fine.

China, Russia etc have half-dabbled in democracy, they have "institutions to support it" in place too, but they're thoroughly corrupt there also.

I don't think a lack of courts, police, govt ministries, press etc is the problem.

Well obviously the French are rubbish, also they got the second tier countries after Britain picked the best ones.