uziq wrote:
another straw man for the n'th time. where are these people? are they hiding in the same place as all those millennials who are going to raves?
KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
My county is projecting to roll out vaccines to the general public in "spring 2021". Hopefully that means by May, which means I and my family need to dodge covid for 4 more months. Definitely doable.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-55733357Priti Patel says the UK should have closed its borders in March 2020 in light of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a video call obtained by Guido Fawkes, the home secretary told Tory supporters she was an "advocate" of closing the borders 10 months ago.
Between mid March and June, the UK did not impose a ban or quarantine restrictions on international travellers arriving in the UK.
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Throughout February 2020 and into March, the government had guidance in place international travellers from the Hubei province in China, parts of South Korea, Iran and Italy to self-isolate for 14 days after arriving in the UK.
But on 13 March 2020, this rule was removed and replaced with guidance advising all people in the UK, including arrivals, to self-isolate if they developed symptoms.
It was not until June that quarantine rules were introduced for all arrivals in the UK - including British citizens - and by July, so-called "travel corridors" were introduced, removing the need to self-isolate when coming to the UK from certain countries.
Transport Secretary Grant Shapps made weekly announcements on which countries were included on the list - but on Monday, the government closed all travel corridors to "protect against the risk of as yet unidentified new strains" of coronavirus.
The government was criticised for acting too late over border policy, with the Home Affairs Committee of MPs publishing a report in August, saying a lack of measures earlier in the pandemic was a "serious mistake" and the change in rules in March was "inexplicable".
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Ms Patel repeatedly refused to appear before the Home Affairs Committee between January and April last year, turning down four invitations and offering private briefings instead.
When she did appear on 29 April last year, she was asked by Labour MP Stephen Doughty if she disagreed with the change in rules around self-isolating in March.
She replied: "We all follow the advice that is given from the government."
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Asked about the home secretary's comments on BBC Two's Politics Live programme, Tory MP and Chair of the Foreign Affairs Committee, Tom Tugendhat, said there were "a lot of benefits of hindsight here".
He added: "It is certainly true with hindsight we should have closed the borders last March.
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this is literally in place in most of the middle-east and is precisely the system the korean authorities use?and there is still no 'rapid testing at the airport' which allows people to instantly enter then mingle freely in the population anywhere in the world at the present time
/shrugA closed border is a border that prevents movement of people between different jurisdictions with limited or no exceptions associated with this movement. These borders normally have fences or walls in which any gates or border crossings are closed and if these border gates are opened they generally only allow movement of people in exceptional circumstances. Perhaps the most famous example of an extant closed border is the Demilitarized Zone between North Korea and South Korea. The Berlin Wall could also have been called a closed border.
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Which is exactly what most countries have now, ie closed borders.uziq wrote:
A closed border is a border that prevents movement of people between different jurisdictions with limited or no exceptions associated with this movement.
No, you have to go into 14 days isolation in Koreathis is literally in place in most of the middle-east and is precisely the system the korean authorities use?
https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 … y-suggestsCovid vaccines may need updating to protect against new variant, study suggests
Neutralising ability of antibodies typically falls eight-fold with South African variant
Coronavirus vaccines may need to be redesigned this year to boost protection against a new variant that emerged rapidly in South Africa, research suggests, while past Covid sufferers may not be protected against reinfection.
Research by South African government scientists reveals that mutations of the new variant, known as 501Y.v2 or B1351, make the variant substantially resistant to antibodies in blood plasma donated by Covid patients.
The findings suggest it may be more likely to reinfect people who have already had Covid, and that vaccines being rolled out across the globe may be less effective. Since the variant emerged late last year, it has prompted travel bans around the world.
