did...did you read the article you linked? LOLDilbert_X wrote:
No-one knows how contagious it is at this point.
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/how … -sars-mers
Surgical masks aren't much use.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/22 … ronavirus/
But you know everything, best of luck.
No one knows how contagious, yet you're comfortable enough relaying the 14 day incubation time that has been observed in other CoV. So your position is that I should do nothing to protect my coworkers? OK.Can an N95 face mask protect you from catching the new coronavirus?
Health 27 January 2020
By Jessica Hamzelou
A man wears a mask near Wuhan, China
A man wears a mask near Wuhan, China
Stringer/Getty
Face masks are reportedly selling out in cities across Asia as concerns over the spread of a deadly new coronavirus grow. China’s National Health Commission has deployed masks to healthcare workers responding to the outbreak, and millions of masks have been sent to residents of Wuhan, according to reports. But will these masks stop people from catching the virus?
We know the coronavirus is airborne, and that it can be transmitted between people. Researchers believe that the virus may have made the jump from animals to people via the inhalation of airborne particles in a seafood market that sold live wild animals. So it makes sense to cover your nose and mouth.
There are two main types of face masks that are being used to do that. One is a standard surgical mask – the kind worn by surgeons during operations. These masks are designed to block liquid droplets, and might lower the chance of catching the virus from another person.
But these masks don’t offer full protection against airborne viruses. For a start, they don’t fully seal off the nose and mouth – particles can still get in. And very small particles can simply pass through the material of the mask. These masks also leave the wearer’s eyes exposed – and there’s a chance the virus can infect that way. “They might help, but it’s not clear they give you total protection,” says Mark Woolhouse at the University of Edinburgh, UK.
Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article/22 … z6CHNUzUij
They're of marginal use at best, apparently the major effect is to stop people touching their nose and mouth with their hands.But these masks don’t offer full protection against airborne viruses. For a start, they don’t fully seal off the nose and mouth – particles can still get in. And very small particles can simply pass through the material of the mask. These masks also leave the wearer’s eyes exposed – and there’s a chance the virus can infect that way. “They might help, but it’s not clear they give you total protection,”
Apparently the WHO reckons the incubation period could be 14 days.No one knows how contagious, yet you're comfortable enough relaying the 14 day incubation time that has been observed in other CoV. So your position is that I should do nothing to protect my coworkers? OK.
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I did, and in this case doing something is better than nothing. I'm under no illusions that wearing a surgical mask will prevent an outbreak. I'm also rational enough to understand basic measures address 80% of normal concerns wrt transmission of airborne viruses.Dilbert_X wrote:
Did you read the article?They're of marginal use at best, apparently the major effect is to stop people touching their nose and mouth with their hands.But these masks don’t offer full protection against airborne viruses. For a start, they don’t fully seal off the nose and mouth – particles can still get in. And very small particles can simply pass through the material of the mask. These masks also leave the wearer’s eyes exposed – and there’s a chance the virus can infect that way. “They might help, but it’s not clear they give you total protection,”Apparently the WHO reckons the incubation period could be 14 days.No one knows how contagious, yet you're comfortable enough relaying the 14 day incubation time that has been observed in other CoV. So your position is that I should do nothing to protect my coworkers? OK.
https://www.who.int/ith/2020-24-01-outb … avirus/en/
And a P2/N95 is the minimum to be of use
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectiou … virus.aspx
Anyway, you're the expert, do whatever you like, best of luck.
The measures I mentioned fall under the first one listed. N95/P2 is the recommendation for people at risk of coming in to contact with potential victims, e.g. health workers.Travellers should be advised of general travel health precautions which will lower the risk of infection in general. Specific emphasis should be placed on:
hand hygiene and respiratory hygiene
adhering to good food-safety practices
maintaining good personal hygiene.
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I criticise each when they deserve it, same as I criticise muslims and christians, the US military etc, its just that you're blind to all of that.uziq wrote:
but you don't criticize the IDF, do you? you criticize 'the jews'.
it's funny how most of the rest of the civilized world can condemn the aggressive/bellicose actions of the IDF in the strongest possible terms ... without making reference to their 'biblical propensity to rape, rob, pillage and murder as they please'. isn't that odd? here's most of the western world dealing with israel as a political question, and there's you going off about blood libels and quoting leviticus. it makes you seem unhinged.
that's what makes you an anti-semite. sorry.
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The religion is used as a reason for some zionist actions the state undertakes, definitely. Being able to understand and accurately direct your criticisms is important. When you quite literally say "the jews" when you are talking about the IDF, or Bibi, or other hard-line zionists, it's understandable that people paint you as an anti-semite. Contrast your statements and our response with Ahmadinejad's speech on destroying the zionist regime, which was a very directed call out of the regime in general, not a call to action to commit genocide against the jews.Dilbert_X wrote:
I criticise each when they deserve it, same as I criticise muslims and christians, the US military etc, its just that you're blind to all of that.uziq wrote:
but you don't criticize the IDF, do you? you criticize 'the jews'.
it's funny how most of the rest of the civilized world can condemn the aggressive/bellicose actions of the IDF in the strongest possible terms ... without making reference to their 'biblical propensity to rape, rob, pillage and murder as they please'. isn't that odd? here's most of the western world dealing with israel as a political question, and there's you going off about blood libels and quoting leviticus. it makes you seem unhinged.
that's what makes you an anti-semite. sorry.
Strange that Israel is demanding that the world recognise them as an exclusively jewish nation, that all non-jews be expelled from Israel, is demanding that they be able to seize all the land to enable to return their nation to apparently mythical borders from biblical times - and then some, but if anyone dares criticise them then they must be anti-semites because there's no connection between their jewishness or the teachings of judaism and the behaviour of Israel.
Seizing the Temple Mount and the Jordan Valley are both exclusively religious objectives and both are going to cause immense trouble.
Its not really a 'political question' when the actions of Israel are wholly bound up with their nutty religion, vicious teachings and end-of-times beliefs.
It really is about an unhinged cult being glad to see the whole region aflame as long as they get to fulfill their loony prophecies.
Saying so doesn't make anyone an anti-semite, its simple fact.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menachem_ … SchneersonCyprus belongs to Israel and was called The Island of Dan. The borders of Israel stretch from the Nile River to the Euphrates. Eastern Egypt, Sinai, Jordan, part of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, part of Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and part of Turkey are within the Biblical Borders of Israel; They are "Occupied Territory". Rabbi M.M. Schneerson of Lubavitch (Chabad) on the borders of Israel.
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Larssen wrote:
blatant anti semitism
http://www.britam.org/white.htmlIs Obama Legitimate?
President Obama may well be a Kenyan of Canaanite origin and forbidden according to the US Constitution to fulfill the role he does.
We are commanded not to put foreigners in command of us:
Deuteronomy 17:15 you shall surely set a king over you whom the LORD your God chooses; one from among your brethren you shall set as king over you; you may not set a foreigner over you, who is not your brother.
Alien control of Israelites is described as punishment to be avoided.
Deuteronomy 28:43 The alien who is among you shall rise higher and higher above you, and you shall come down lower and lower.
Obama was raised in a radical leftwing environment and his mentors appear to have been anti-American pro-terrorist leftist types.
Barak Hussein is also against Zionism and the State of Israel and possibly against the USA itself.
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