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_j5689_
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

I am happy for you. Tell us about the girl.
Here's a pic.  She's a white girl with a tan complexion due to lots of Greek and Italian ancestry, she's got pretty green eyes, and she has the wide hips, skinny waist thing going on which was pretty awesome.  We only had sex twice, I wish we could've done doggy style more to enjoy those hips but she was complaining about me putting a queef into her the first time(apparently doggy is the easiest position for that to happen in), so I was like nvm the next time.

uziq wrote:

congrats. hopefully that’s a weight off your shoulders.
It is, I can't even describe what a relief it was although it didn't immediately hit me until some point afterward.

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

I hope he came to the understanding that losing your virginity is usually a lot more awkward than being a virgin
We were really comfortable with each other from doing other stuff up to that point so a lot of the unfamiliarity was gone.  But she was complaing about a lot of things I was doing like accidentally putting air into her or when I made a joke she considered inappropriate, but it was because I was excited.  Any awkwardness was incomparable to being a 27 year old virgin before that though.  The awkwardness whenever people would talk about anything of a sexual nature was instantaneous.  Anytime anybody brought up the sex or relationships topic, I just had to go completely silent.  I was by far the last of all my friends to lose it and that was one significant topic with them that I could never contribute to, I felt like I was less than every adult around me because I hadn't had the experience of having sex like they more than likely did.  It was a massive confidence killer, I pretty much instantly dismissed any woman who ever might have showed interest in me as just being friendly because I was convinced I would fuck it up somewhere and it wasn't worth getting my hopes up.  And now all of that is completely gone, I never have to worry about feeling like that again.  It was undoubtedly one the most unhealthy mindsets I could possibly have had about it to let it dictate my self-worth like that, but now it's not a problem anymore.

TL;DR version of this response: It wasn't nearly as awkward as I expected my first time to be, and any amount of awkwardness still would have been better than being a late virgin.

Superior Mind wrote:

Good for you, j5. Hopefully you enjoyed it.
Honestly, the actual act of sex was pretty underwhelming, but by that point, in my head I had built sex up to be something that I don't think it could ever possibly be, or at least absolutely not in the first couple of times.  I will say that seeing a vagina literally dripping wet waiting for me to stick it in was a magical memory though.  But I felt like I couldn't 100% relax and enjoy sex because what little romantic chemistry we had by that point(6 months) had faded away, and she kept bitching about things I was doing while having sex the first time.  I eventually couldn't finish the first time because it felt like too much pressure, she had broken up with her ex because of not being able to cum.  Not the greatest first time, although I was still glad to have done it and now I know I can give women orgasms.  2nd time felt a bit better, no arguing since we had already just done that beforehand, and it was also slightly easier for me to relax, and I was able to eventually cum on her boobs.  But overall it just felt like I was masturbating with another person.

I apparently gave myself deathgrip syndrome too and it's hard for pussy to match the tightness and speed of your hand.  I've been told that new feeling just takes some getting used to, but with only two times under my belt with somebody I didn't even have much chemistry with, I never got a chance to really start mentally enjoying sex anywhere near as much as I do with masturbation.

TL;DR version of this response: My expectations were entirely too high from being a virgin for so long and I didn't have enough experience(obviously can't be helped) or chemistry with the other person to fully enjoy sex.  But I am perfectly fine with that because that just means it'll get better with the next person now that I have the confidence to do some of the heavy lifting like a guy is expected to.

Last edited by _j5689_ (2020-09-24 07:43:22)

uziq
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good sex feels much better than 'deathgrip' jerking off (lol what a term). like an order of magnitude better. ditto good head.

seek and ye shall find ...

did she let you touch her dreadlocks?
_j5689_
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uziq wrote:

good sex feels much better than 'deathgrip' jerking off (lol what a term). like an order of magnitude better. ditto good head.

seek and ye shall find ...

did she let you touch her dreadlocks?
I guess effort doesn't necessarily equate to goodness, she seemed like she really wanted to give good sex and good head.  There were split seconds where the head felt really good and then it almost immediately turned into oversensitivity after that.

I did touch her dreads, her hair very often ended up tangled in my beard whenever we would cuddle or sleep(literally) together.

And speaking of dreads, there's also this black chick at work with a nice ass that has been wanting to fuck me for a long time, and especially now that I've lost my V-card she's even more interested.  I'm a bit torn though because although I have a lot more chemistry with and physical attraction to this black girl already from the beginning, and thus there is significantly better potential for good sex to happen, I don't want that to also turn into deep emotional attachment to somebody I work with.  I was scared about that with the other girl too and when I started to get too attached, it was causing me severe anxiety, so she eased off on the affection that got me attached and then waited till the chemistry was already dead to take my V-card after, making the attachment a non issue but making the sex purely mechanical.

Hopefully I can transfer to day shift at some point in the next few months so I can actually meet women outside of work for the first time in my 20s.  It's really bad when your only option for having your sexual/intimacy needs met is to risk shitting where you eat.
uziq
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it's time for the bf2s credits music to roll. j5 copped a girl's dreads.

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lil_droo
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damn that's beautiful jnumbers, i'm happy for u dude. honestly at least ime sex gets better the more u do it with the same partner. first time with a new girl is a little overwhelming at times at least for me. u don't necessarily have to be in "love" with them or whatever just have good energy with her. but yeah too much porn and excessive masturbation is bad that's why i cut back on that shit a long time ago. i would still have trouble sometimes cumming from just penetration (even worse with a condom) but i'm also on the smaller side of average so a lot of girls don't feel that tight to me to begin with and then once they're aroused the pussy loosens up and stuff so it just makes it worse lol. i think really good head is better than penetration but that's just me.

my 1st time clapping cheeks was actually nothing to write home about but i did feel more empowered and relieved afterwards too. it's a big thing.
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_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
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The nice thing that I really miss is that almost the whole time I was with that girl, it became easier not to masturbate and watch porn because it felt like sex was actually immanent for the first time and I was no longer fapping just to get rid of my pointless sex drive because my sex drive was no longer pointless.  There were times before the day we finally had sex where we would still do sexual stuff, but never actually get into sex.  Like at one point she put my hand on her boobs and I started rubbing her nips while she was feeling up my arms and enjoying it.  Or when she got on all fours and straddled me while I was laying down watching a movie and started grinding her vag through her yoga pants on my boner through my pants(I was too stupid to have bought a condom yet so I couldn't progress it to sex).  I would get all sexually fired up, and then go home and wait until the next day and then all that pent up sexual energy and horniness plus also waiting an entire day and a half caused me to bust a HUGE FUCKING NUT once I finally did get a chance to watch porn the next day after getting home from work.

God dammit, I wish I had fucked her while all of that was going on instead of months later when we were just arguing all the time and the chemistry was down.  But I was mostly way too nervous to initiate sex until she finally threw me a softball and actually said "Let's do it", and before that I also had to buy some boxes of condoms to figure out what worked(Lelo HEX fits me perfectly but due to some initial mismeasurements I now have a couple boxes of pencil-dick condoms that wouldn't have fit me and Amazon doesn't take them back).  I know it sounds dumb when I explain it but up until I was going over to that girl's house regularly and doing horny shit with her, I didn't think I would ever have sex unless I finally decided to take the risk of getting arrested and trying to fuck an escort where they have to keep things moving to make sure you're not a cop, so it was tough to make the mental transition to having sex with a real girl that wants to be seduced and have you progress into it naturally, even though she doesn't make the mental connection that that's brand new territory for you and you're terrified of making her feel violated by going too fast.

And on the subject of condoms: We had sex with and without a condom(miscommunication, I thought she wanted to do it without but she was too in the moment to notice and she got mad at me after) and I felt like it didn't make that much difference either way other than that it was a little bit warmer without.  I think I chose some damn good condoms but maybe it's just me trying to convince myself of that because I don't want the problems that come with having sex without them, my best friend got spoiled by not ever having to use them and he has picked up multiple STDs in the time he's been having sex because of that.  The 2nd time, I only had one of my condoms and we had to use her ex's old ones when we went back to penetration and they fucking sucked, I literally had to ask her if it was in at one point.


Sorry for the wall o' text, I'm trying not to resume my status as the king of this thread, it's just nice to be able to get this out of my system.  The black chick is also being a cock tease and that was my last option so I guess I'll just happily stick to porn for the foreseeable future unless I can make it onto day shift and this COVID stuff resides so I can start meeting women outside of work again.

Last edited by _j5689_ (2020-09-27 09:25:31)

DesertFox-
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It's actually interesting to read. I feel like if Mac wrote something like this, I'd be facepalming, but I'm not, so good on you.
uziq
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i mean this is way way 'TMI' but it's quality content.
Finray
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deathgrip syndrome hahahaha never heard of it but been there

pack in the crankin' for a week if you can, it'll all be gone
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lil_droo
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Some of it has to do with being circumcised which I am and probably jnumbers as well like most normal Americans. I guess uncut dicks have more sensitivity or something. And that can be a curse or a blessing but orgasms feel the same and that's what counts

I'd still rather be cut any day tho. Way more aesthetic, girls prefer it, more hygienic, and even tho I'm not particularly religious at least I feel like I'm somewhat sticking to my roots (my mom is jewish)
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uziq
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all of those 'benefits' are basically myths and misinformation my guy. you can trace them historically to bad advice and misconceptions promulgated by american physicians in the 1950s and 1960s. america is almost unique in the secular world for the practice of widespread circumcision by default. the benefits are mostly self-invented. you just lost a bit of a your dick at birth for no reason, sorry bro.

'girls prefer it' american girls, perhaps, who are obviously conditioned to expect circumcised penises as the 'norm'.
lil_droo
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uziq wrote:

all of those 'benefits' are basically myths and misinformation my guy. you can trace them historically to bad advice and misconceptions promulgated by american physicians in the 1950s and 1960s. america is almost unique in the secular world for the practice of widespread circumcision by default. the benefits are mostly self-invented. you just lost a bit of a your dick at birth for no reason, sorry bro.

'girls prefer it' american girls, perhaps, who are obviously conditioned to expect circumcised penises as the 'norm'.
i didn't lose any part of my dick dude, it's skin... and the benefits are not myths. look up what smegma or whatever is and i there's even higher risks of STD transmission with uncut dicks and some other health issues. also it's not just america, like all of the muslim world and jewish people in europe etc do it too i think some asians also get cut.

and to a certain degree girls do prefer it i think. i was fucking around with a foreign latvian student for a while and she loved that shit, i was her first american too. and this is a stretch but u could almost argue that europeans would prefer it too if they experienced it or knew better. some dude in the middle of africa technically wouldn't "prefer" a cheeseburger and chocolate milkshake but at the same time he doesnt know what hes missing
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uziq
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lmao oh my god androoz.

did you learn to wash your hair as a kid? do you struggle to keep your armpits from smelling? people with foreskins do not get smegma build-ups, my guy. people with terrible personal hygiene, maybe.

no, STI and HIV/AIDS risks are not worse with foreskin. it's a myth. read the scientific research. that entire myth comes from one single journal paper that studied a small sample in uganda where sexual diseases are rampant and sexual practices are much different.

religious people cutting foreskins for ritual reasons is NOT a good justification. a huge number of people on earth also practice female genital mutilation because of 'tradition'. would you recommend it for your daughter? performing unnecessary invasive surgery on a baby is not really a good practice. this is why the vast majority of world's doctors and medical systems do not circumcise children without a definite need. there's risks of infections, poor healing, compromised immune systems, etc. in babies. but sure, keep talking about your supposed 'reduced' chances of getting hepatitis or whatever, lol. (if you want to protect against STIs, wear a condom, not cut your foreskin off.)

your 'proof' that women prefer no foreskin is ... one latvian girl, who was excited by her 'first' american? it's practically scientific fact, a sample size of one girl's preference.

again, you lost 1/2 your length for no reason. now you have an acorn at the bottom of your torso. too bad!

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Finray
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what the actual fuck are you talking about drooz, sounds like the rumours from highschool
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Superior Mind
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It’s called denial. We were mutilated, drooz. Never forget and never forgive.
DesertFox-
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My god, that first comment seemed tailor-made to start the same debate that always comes up at the mention of circumcision.
Superior Mind
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Drooz was and will be bf2s’ greatest troll. Maybe.
SuperJail Warden
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People who aren't circumcised are always the ones bringing it up as a negative while the people who are cut are just going along with the flow of things.
uziq
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s m e Gma g ives  u AIDS dude it's science

People who aren't circumcised are always the ones bringing it up as a negative while the people who are cut are just going along with the flow of things.
lmao that's called a fait accompli. it will do that.

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SuperJail Warden
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Why do you care about my penis?
lil_droo
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uziq wrote:

lmao oh my god androoz.

did you learn to wash your hair as a kid? do you struggle to keep your armpits from smelling? people with foreskins do not get smegma build-ups, my guy. people with terrible personal hygiene, maybe.

no, STI and HIV/AIDS risks are not worse with foreskin. it's a myth. read the scientific research. that entire myth comes from one single journal paper that studied a small sample in uganda where sexual diseases are rampant and sexual practices are much different.

religious people cutting foreskins for ritual reasons is NOT a good justification. a huge number of people on earth also practice female genital mutilation because of 'tradition'. would you recommend it for your daughter? performing unnecessary invasive surgery on a baby is not really a good practice. this is why the vast majority of world's doctors and medical systems do not circumcise children without a definite need. there's risks of infections, poor healing, compromised immune systems, etc. in babies. but sure, keep talking about your supposed 'reduced' chances of getting hepatitis or whatever, lol. (if you want to protect against STIs, wear a condom, not cut your foreskin off.)

your 'proof' that women prefer no foreskin is ... one latvian girl, who was excited by her 'first' american? it's practically scientific fact, a sample size of one girl's preference.

again, you lost 1/2 your length for no reason. now you have an acorn at the bottom of your torso. too bad!
u have good points. i didn't know the STD thing only came from one research paper. and yeah true about the female mutiliation thing. i'm not trolling or trying to start shit with anyone. i don't do research on any of this, i'm just going by pieces of info i've picked up over the years

there's obviously pros and cons being uncut or cut. but i don't think it will change anytime soon since it's a big cultural thing. a lot of dudes are cut in america thus when they have kids they will probably have their boys cut since they want them to be like them. same thing in europe. uncut dudes aren't gonna cut their future children.

edit: i guess if we really wanted to find out about the sensitivty thing etc or what girls prefer would be to talk to a dude that got circumcised later in adulthood. that would be someone who's experienced both sides.

Last edited by lil_droo (2020-09-27 17:07:21)

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uziq
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Why do you care about my penis?
i do not. why did you spend 2 years talking about the genitalia of others and fixating on transsexuals?
Dauntless
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That's awesome jnumbers!

So what happened with the girl? You still see her or is it onwards and upwards?
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SuperJail Warden
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uziq wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Why do you care about my penis?
i do not. why did you spend 2 years talking about the genitalia of others and fixating on transsexuals?
I have never focused on their genitalia. That doesn't even factor into my thinking about them. I am focused on them being strange in public.
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I think that if a family has their boy circumcised they shouldn't lose their minds if he comes home with pierced ears or a tattoo later in life. It would make sense for the latter to be less objectionable considering pierced ears or a tattoo usually happen with the consent of the person they're done to.

Anyway it always brings to mind ear cropping on dogs "because of looks" but usually excused by "it prevents infections!"

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