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HollisHurlbut wrote:

I think it's sad that supporting Trump is all that's required for some people to feel justified in demanding someone resign from a school board.

The guy came to Board of Education meetings in an overwhelmingly non-white district with a MAGA hat.

But that's not why people are calling for him to reisng. He wrote a bunch of Facebook post recently mocking the BLM movement.

Trustee Michael Alonso has sparked controversy after a social media post that many view as racist and an incitement to violence.

“Where will the Bayonne Riot Start? Walmart- QuickChek- Shoprite?” Alonso said.

In another post, pictured in this article, Alonso shares a political cartoon of Joe Biden changing a “Black Lives Matter Sign” to “Black Votes Matter.” It has since been taken down.

It's clearly a pattern and it doesn't help a board of education already under pressure.

HollisHurlbut wrote:

I can't help but wonder how you get "better" racial ratios without actively discriminating in the hiring process.

Maybe the warped racial ratios are a result of active discrimination in the first place.

The racist part his riot post is assumption that the local blacks are going to riot. The sort of race riots in the Midwest and West Coast hasn't taken place in NJ in 50 years.

Are you familiar with the concept of Counter Insurgency (COIN)? Comprehensive civilian and military efforts taken to simultaneously defeat and contain insurgency and address its root causes. One important part of COIN is having locals managing their affairs and provide local security. This is why the U.S. spent so much time building up Iraqi and Afghan security forces and why AQ spent so much time blowing them up. Who is providing services is the difference between an occupying force and local rule. Again I will have to point out that the Department of Justice came to this same conclusion when they found that the city of Ferguson had the same issue of my town where you have services managed by out of town whites who have no stake and connection to the locals.

How you manage to change the discrepancy between the town and the town leadership's demographics is a question that none of us are knowledgeable enough to answer. Pochsy might be the only one who can even try. But you can't complain about the ongoing riots and mass disorder and then complain when anyone suggest taking steps to address the root causes of the dysfunction. I'm not suggesting anything radical like disbanding the police. All I am saying is provide better opportunities for minorities to manage and service their communities.

Heavens, is he also wearing one of those gaudy thin blue line shirts?

seems like a wonderful case of self-segregation and a terrific breeding ground for escalation. I have no sympathy for people who refuse to coexist with others.

uziq wrote:

if i had been present at the loss of another human being's life due to a chokehold restraining, if i had even been witness to that, i definitely would not go around pranking and cavorting with my pals, evidently having a great laugh, and putting one another in chokeholds. it's beyond tasteless.

it's almost as if, on a basic psychological level, black lives don't matter to these people. if one of your buddies or family died in a chokehold, wouldn't it have some ominous or sombre association for you? but no, these guys were jerking around with chokeholds whilst elijah was basically still under a sheet, waiting to be buried. not even fazed at all.

and people are surprised about the vehemence of BLM rhetoric

Its a picture of nothing, just people dicking around.

i support lewis in blm but god he opens his mouth too much
sponsored by petronas which is state owned by very anti lgbt malaysia while calling out others for not posting on social media about blm
called someone racist in public, only apologized in private after he found out he was wrong
said he was the first working class f1 champ.
and thats only recently


another note
i do not get the removal of any tv with blackface. it is retarded

Hamilton was born on 7 January 1985 in Stevenage, Hertfordshire, England. Hamilton's mother, Carmen (Larbalestier), is white British, while his father, Anthony Hamilton, is black British, making him mixed-race; he self-identifies as black.

Lewis needs to find a door loop somewhere.

I've talked about it, I think I'm going to self-identify as black from now on.

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SuperJail Warden wrote:

If a man can pretend to be a woman you can pretend to be black.

Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but I seriously don't see any relevant difference here.

I can see a lot of advantages to being black now, I'm sure there's some black blood in me somewhere.

Positive discrimination here I come.

Congratulations, your life finally matters.

SuperJail Warden wrote:

The racist part his riot post is assumption that the local blacks are going to riot. The sort of race riots in the Midwest and West Coast hasn't taken place in NJ in 50 years.

Given what' had been going on around the rest of the country, I think it is reasonable to suspect similar events would unfold in that town also.

Are you familiar with the concept of Counter Insurgency (COIN)? Comprehensive civilian and military efforts taken to simultaneously defeat and contain insurgency and address its root causes. One important part of COIN is having locals managing their affairs and provide local security. This is why the U.S. spent so much time building up Iraqi and Afghan security forces and why AQ spent so much time blowing them up. Who is providing services is the difference between an occupying force and local rule. Again I will have to point out that the Department of Justice came to this same conclusion when they found that the city of Ferguson had the same issue of my town where you have services managed by out of town whites who have no stake and connection to the locals.

Yeah, I'm going to decline this "opportunity" to think of fellow Americans as insurgents or occupying forces.

How you manage to change the discrepancy between the town and the town leadership's demographics is a question that none of us are knowledgeable enough to answer.

Elections are probably a good start.

But you can't complain about the ongoing riots and mass disorder and then complain when anyone suggest taking steps to address the root causes of the dysfunction.

I don't think the skin color of any city employee is a root cause of anything.

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