SuperJail Warden
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What do you guys think of Jewish resistance in German-occupied Europe? I would say without a doubt it was instrumental to the war effort. Many of the great victories of World War 2 wouldn't have been possible without the contributions of Jews.
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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Was there a jewish resistance?

The largest in the west was the French and they achieved very little.
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SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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Donald Trump has claimed that left-wing activists for the violent protests in Minneapolis and other cities, and declared his administration will move to designate the loose association of militant left-wing, anti-fascist demonstrators commonly known as “Antifa” as a terrorist organisation.

“The United States of America will be designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organisation,” he said in a series of tweets on Sunday blaming violent outbursts and rioting at police brutality protests across America over the weekend on the group and other “Radical Left” elements.​
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl … 41306.html

Anti-Fascist getting declared terrorist. The irony is probably lost on a lot of people who don't like Antifa because they don't know what the word stands for.
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DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
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Also getting declared an organization, too, which is interesting.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Donald Trump has claimed that left-wing activists for the violent protests in Minneapolis and other cities, and declared his administration will move to designate the loose association of militant left-wing, anti-fascist demonstrators commonly known as “Antifa” as a terrorist organisation.

“The United States of America will be designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organisation,” he said in a series of tweets on Sunday blaming violent outbursts and rioting at police brutality protests across America over the weekend on the group and other “Radical Left” elements.​
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl … 41306.html

Anti-Fascist getting declared terrorist. The irony is probably lost on a lot of people who don't like Antifa because they don't know what the word stands for.
He doesn't have the power to do it.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Donald Trump has claimed that left-wing activists for the violent protests in Minneapolis and other cities, and declared his administration will move to designate the loose association of militant left-wing, anti-fascist demonstrators commonly known as “Antifa” as a terrorist organisation.

“The United States of America will be designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organisation,” he said in a series of tweets on Sunday blaming violent outbursts and rioting at police brutality protests across America over the weekend on the group and other “Radical Left” elements.​
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl … 41306.html

Anti-Fascist getting declared terrorist. The irony is probably lost on a lot of people who don't like Antifa because they don't know what the word stands for.
How many People's Republics have actually been People's Republics? Or even Republics for that matter.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Dilbert_X
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Well, not America.

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SuperJail Warden
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What culpability did the Wehrmacht have in the Holocaust?
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Dilbert_X
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Not much IIRC, it was mostly the SS.

I'm not so sure about the annihilations on the eastern front, I think that was average wermacht.
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SuperJail Warden
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On the Eastern Front, the Werhmacht did carry out many mass executions of civilians as well as other war crimes.

I am watching this video. It makes me nostalgic for college.
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Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
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Have you seen Come and See (1985)? Depicts the brutalization of civilians on the eastern front.
SuperJail Warden
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First off, nice to see you Sup.

Secondly I have never heard of that movie through I appreciate the allusion to the the Bible.
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Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6663
Witness Belarusian villagers be burned alive in a church. Really a must watch.
SuperJail Warden
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Today is a day that will live in infamy. On this day in 1941 Pearl Harbor was attacked. Also this week, the highwater mark of Nazi Germany receded. The Soviet military began a massive counter attack on German forces at the gates of Moscow.

Today I am showing a documentary about Franklin Roosevelt to the asylum inmates I manage. It's a shame they don't care about this shit as much as it deserves to be remembered.
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SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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Starting World War 2 unit after break. Very excited to annoy Uzique with NPC talk for a few weeks.
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unnamednewbie13
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It's possible that some of your students may develop more of an interest in this kind of material later in life, like so many other people seem to do. High school history as I recall is presented very dry and uninteresting, reduced to cramming faceless names and numbers. I get that dates and such are just a reality of learning history, but there was such a nerd-brain focus on them to the exclusion of telling human stories and their lessons. This seems to repel young brains.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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Imperial Japanese Army flag.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/War_flag_of_the_Imperial_Japanese_Army_%281868%E2%80%931945%29.svg/1200px-War_flag_of_the_Imperial_Japanese_Army_%281868%E2%80%931945%29.svg.png
I know many people in East Asia consider it a hate symbol. But what about here? I put together big slideshows for my kids. I would never use a Nazi flag or swastika because I don't want any parents to see their kids staring at that on their computer. But what about this? Can I put this on a cover of a slideshow since it doesn't carry weight here? I have 60 kids and only one Asian if that makes a difference.

And if displaying this flag isn't wrong here then why is it bad to display a Nazi flag? Americans suffered as many war crimes against us by the Japanese as the Germans did to us. Such a cool flag though. Why don't modern fascist have such good aesthetics?
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uziq
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it's not bad to display any of those flags in a history classroom. that's kind of the entire point of history classrooms.

you probably shouldn't walk around a chinese market with one over your shoulder, though.
unnamednewbie13
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It should be noted that variations of that flag are still used by today's JSDF, and likewise the old navy's by the JMSDF. The national flag did not change (e: apart from a different shade of red).

From a western perspective, maybe different circumstances than Nazi Germany's '35-'45 flag being verbotten.
uziq
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the only difference is that japan are mostly unrepentant and refuse to acknowledge the very real history. if anything, the japanese flag in those contexts still represents a greater legitimate offence. it’s more shocking, not less.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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If anything, both flags should be used starkly in the specific context of classrooms. Forbidding the swastika probably only encourages its use in graffiti with kids who are drawn to the taboo shape. And yes, the difference between Germany and Japan's post-war attitudes is also huge and something that people shouldn't have to learn outside the classroom.

If Germany and Japan got their genocidal expansionism out of the way in the 1800s, maybe they'd have been more respectable. /s
SuperJail Warden
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Thanks for your thoughts Uzique and Newbie.

I am teaching Japanese Internment this week. Is it okay for me to tell the kids it was the only bad thing we did in the war? Can I call the camps concentration camps?

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KEN-JENNINGS
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No its not okay because you would be lying to them.. You should call them concentration camps to clarify what a concentration camp is so people don't only associate them with #WW2 #holocaust #jews #nazi

I hope you also explain how it wasn't just plain old racism but also a successful land grab by white farmers in the Central Valley of California.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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I really don't like focusing on the bad things America has done but I need to fill up this week with something. I am afraid of upsetting republican parents. One parent already reported a teacher for opening a class discussion on Christopher Columbus being a hero or not.
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KEN-JENNINGS
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I think you're smart enough to find a way to present facts in a clear and concise way without showing personal bias. Presenting something as "this happened in the past" without providing historical context and motivating factors is teaching a factoid to students, not encouraging them to analyze and apply critical thought to history.

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