BF2S Forums Pandemic thread

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Some of those militia guys need to off some people in public soon. It has been the only interesting storyline in the last half a dozen episodes and I am afraid it won't pay off like the rest of the season.

They talk a good game, but they never back it up. Dying for a cause is a young adult's game. Once you hit middle age you have too many people depending on you to get shot by a cop.

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Some of those militia guys need to off some people in public soon. It has been the only interesting storyline in the last half a dozen episodes and I am afraid it won't pay off like the rest of the season.

there's going to be plenty of time for anger and rage. covid-2020 is only just getting started.

you can tell a real fatigue has set in at the white house already. they just want to be rid of it. unfortunately they're only making the hard work of getting past it that much harder, and more drawn out.

imagine being in portugal right now. they are going to have a regular summer, almost care-free.

Good thing for you guys the president can't decide over state policies.

SuperJail Warden wrote:

uziq wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Some of those militia guys need to off some people in public soon. It has been the only interesting storyline in the last half a dozen episodes and I am afraid it won't pay off like the rest of the season.

there's going to be plenty of time for anger and rage. covid-2020 is only just getting started.

you can tell a real fatigue has set in at the white house already. they just want to be rid of it. unfortunately they're only making the hard work of getting past it that much harder, and more drawn out.

imagine being in portugal right now. they are going to have a regular summer, almost care-free.

Trump is actually shutting down the COVID taskforce that Pence was running soon. He talked privately about just letting the virus "wash over" the country and get it over with. I think the mass protest convinced him to just let the virus do its thing since he figures his base of support won't abandon him.

i think he's tired by it. he didn't want to be president in any real sense, and he definitely has no appetite for actual leadership when it involves managing a crisis like this.

he has done incommensurate harm and the pandemic should blight his presidency more than any fake war like with bush.

Someone at work was watching the video on this site

https://plandemicmovie.com/

Humanity is imprisoned by a killer pandemic. People are being arrested for surfing in the ocean and meditating in nature. Nations are collapsing. Hungry citizens are rioting for food. The media has generated so much confusion and fear that people are begging for salvation in a syringe. Billionaire patent owners are pushing for globally mandated vaccines. Anyone who refuses to be injected with experimental poisons will be prohibited from travel, education and work. No, this is not a synopsis for a new horror movie. This is our current reality.

RTHKI wrote:

Someone at work was watching the video on this site

https://plandemicmovie.com/

Humanity is imprisoned by a killer pandemic. People are being arrested for surfing in the ocean and meditating in nature. Nations are collapsing. Hungry citizens are rioting for food. The media has generated so much confusion and fear that people are begging for salvation in a syringe. Billionaire patent owners are pushing for globally mandated vaccines. Anyone who refuses to be injected with experimental poisons will be prohibited from travel, education and work. No, this is not a synopsis for a new horror movie. This is our current reality.

I had that linked to me three times today on facebook. Conspiracy theories are running wild.

uziq wrote:

the anti-vaxxer/anti-experts stuff is never far away from this crisis. it's there, darkening the fringes. you can see it when jay starts railing against scientists and brings up climate change.

No, there's quite a bit of difference. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I am a skeptic.

except the economy is not epidemiology.

uziq wrote:

except the economy is not epidemiology.

Is it not? They're related more than they are not. They're based on human interaction and modeling how the average human behaves. They can't account very well for randomness, and when you try to model for a global environment the randomness takes over.

My interest in statistical modeling is what inspired me to become an engineer in the first place.

Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

The states will all reopen because the Senate has already declined to bail them out financially and their tax revenue has fallen off a cliff.

And if they reopen and we end up with hundreds of thousands more dead how would you feel about that? What number of fatalities would be too much?

It doesn't matter anymore. Any chance to control the virus passed many months ago. We just shut down most of the economy in our states for the past six weeks and cases are still rising. What more could be done? Nothing, really. By the end of this, I expect the total will be somewhere around 150,000.

You should be happy though. Almost all of the dead will be boomers.

The U.S. is almost unique among nations at the speed in which we lost the political will to keep the lockdown going. We are also the vast leader in cases and soon deaths.

Do you subscribe any blame to the presidential administration or are they blameless? And why were other countries able to muster vast public resources to maintain their economies but the richest country in history couldn't?

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

And if they reopen and we end up with hundreds of thousands more dead how would you feel about that? What number of fatalities would be too much?

It doesn't matter anymore. Any chance to control the virus passed many months ago. We just shut down most of the economy in our states for the past six weeks and cases are still rising. What more could be done? Nothing, really. By the end of this, I expect the total will be somewhere around 150,000.

You should be happy though. Almost all of the dead will be boomers.

The U.S. is almost unique among nations at the speed in which we lost the political will to keep the lockdown going. We are also the vast leader in cases and soon deaths.

Do you subscribe any blame to the presidential administration or are they blameless? And why were other countries able to muster vast public resources to maintain their economies but the richest country in history couldn't?

I think there's enough blame to go around that I don't pin it on anyone in particular. The FDA fucked up, the states fucked up, Trump fucked up, the CDC fucked up, the WHO fucked up, China fucked up. Take your pick, man. I mostly blame China for hiding the extent and danger of the outbreak. We got caught off guard and it ran wild. It's easy to second guess and point the finger and say that we should've been more prepared, but you can't prepare for everything, and American government seems to be particularly terrible at planning more than five minutes ahead. Why didn't we have more masks? Why didn't we have more ventilators? Why didn't we have a billion test kits in storage waiting for this day?

None of it matters anymore. Gotta look forward and make the best of a shit situation.

Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

It doesn't matter anymore. Any chance to control the virus passed many months ago. We just shut down most of the economy in our states for the past six weeks and cases are still rising. What more could be done? Nothing, really. By the end of this, I expect the total will be somewhere around 150,000.

You should be happy though. Almost all of the dead will be boomers.

The U.S. is almost unique among nations at the speed in which we lost the political will to keep the lockdown going. We are also the vast leader in cases and soon deaths.

Do you subscribe any blame to the presidential administration or are they blameless? And why were other countries able to muster vast public resources to maintain their economies but the richest country in history couldn't?

I think there's enough blame to go around that I don't pin it on anyone in particular. The FDA fucked up, the states fucked up, Trump fucked up, the CDC fucked up, the WHO fucked up, China fucked up. Take your pick, man. I mostly blame China for hiding the extent and danger of the outbreak. We got caught off guard and it ran wild. It's easy to second guess and point the finger and say that we should've been more prepared, but you can't prepare for everything, and American government seems to be particularly terrible at planning more than five minutes ahead. Why didn't we have more masks? Why didn't we have more ventilators? Why didn't we have a billion test kits in storage waiting for this day?

None of it matters anymore. Gotta look forward and make the best of a shit situation.

Your intelligence community was on top of this and Trump dismissed them. He only trails Bolsonaro for the title 'most incompetent leader of the 21st century so far'.