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uziq
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every 'discussion' with you involves an exhausting amount of covering basics, fundamentals, background, context. do you think people's entire psychology is formed in a high-school classroom? that's quaint. as to the politics and masthead for a 'journal of black psychology', i don't know and frankly i'm not bothered. it seems to be a mid-tier journal in a field with about 12,000 of them. if the sub-sub-sub-discipline flourishes and contributes one iota towards knowledge, then fair enough. i'm not going to lose any sleep over it, either way.

in general with these topics, though, you just don't want to know. all the reading and access is there for you, online, if you really cared for it. but you don't. you prefer to nurse your pet prejudices. then you accuse people of being dismissive and rude when they run out of patience with you. you can't have it both ways: ignore all the reading, dismiss all the paragraphs of explanation, but then expect to have your utter ignorance rewarded with some of that 'tolerance' you're in such short supply of yourself.

'i'm a scientific pessimist' bla bla bla.

i have nothing else to add. if i give you links, you won't read them. let's just do away with any pretence that this is about 'discussion' and just call it 'exhibiting stereotypes'.

Last edited by uziq (2020-03-11 10:37:57)

SuperJail Warden
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Speaking of science and believing your own version of reality: Corona virus.

I am still following conservative news. So far the major talking points are:

1. The flu is worse and we will all be fine.
2. The Democrats are exaggerating the story to take down Trump.
3. Why aren't we talking about the flu that killed people when Obama was president?
4. Trump is doing a good job/Democrats are making it worse.
uziq
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+199|1961
trump and the republicans are sitting on an economic bomb and they know it. hasn't corporate debt doubled from $3 trillion to $6 trillion in the last few years? there's going to be a whole lot of small bread-&-butter businesses not able to honour their loans if the world has to shutter up for 3-4 months to contain a pandemic. and the central/federal banks can't do shit because they've already leveraged their entire toolkit to buoy up and steady the market, in order to 'get the ratings' previously. what are they going to do, shave another 0.01% off the interest rate?

a test to the market and status quo like coronavirus is just going to poke holes in all the weaknesses and highlight all the shared fictions entertained by politicians chasing good growth/stock market/unemployment figures and their big business associates -- the consensual lie about the health of the 'business as usual' system.

Last edited by uziq (2020-03-11 10:42:55)

SuperJail Warden
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I don't wish the virus blows up the global economy but I wouldn't be particularly upset if it did. Okay, I lied I kind of hope it does.

The United States economy is a house of cards held up by debt and poverty wages. Our lack of benefits for our workers will accelerate the spread among the working class and poor. Our lack of universal healthcare is going to result in the healthcare system being overwhelmed. This pandemic is such a perfect storm that will expose the sins of decades of economic planning and policy choices made by our leaders.

And before anyone complains about me celebrating the implosion, I realize the biggest price will be paid by the poor and those who had no role in these decisions. But at the same time, how many of them vote R knowing the policies they promote? Good thing the virus kills the old mostly. They are the biggest supporters of the policies that will drown them.
uziq
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+199|1961
the same description applies to the UK after the 'economic recovery'. the recovery represented a shedding of well-paid, protected permanent positions and a recruiting boom in underpaid, precarious gig-economy/zero hours contracts wages. businesses soon started reporting 'recoveries' and paying out top executive bonuses again; meanwhile the core workforce had been hollowed out. none of those people have employment protection now and in the event of a widespread crisis will pretty quickly require government intervention/help to pay their bills.

meanwhile the politicians that implement this shit get re-elected on campaign slogans about 'record unemployment figures'. it's almost funny.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,646|4614|eXtreme to the maX
I can't remember if I posted this before, but BMW, Mercedes etc have figured out that if they, and other companies, stop hiring salaried middle-managers and giving them company cars and put everyone on one month contracts with no perks then pretty soon the middle-manager company car market - which is the most profitable bit - is going to cease to exist and so will their business model.

Self funded boomers are buying used Corollas, millennial hipsters are using uber or buying older used Corollas from the boomers when they're done with them.
Epstein didn't kill himself
SuperJail Warden
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I would never buy a used car if I didn't have to. But I would also feel like a chump if I bought a 30 or 40 thousand new car. Especially if it is anything but a Korean or Japanese car. They are reliable and easier to work on.

I love these
https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/challenger1-1557774972.jpg?crop=0.817xw:1.00xh;0.117xw,0&resize=640:*
But the absolute base model starts at $30,000, it devours gas, it is too big to park and American cars are untrustworthy. And what would I even be getting out of this? No woman who didn't want to date me would look at this thing and change her mind. The only girls who would be impressed by it are students.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+1,970|3866|London, England

SuperJail Warden wrote:

I would never buy a used car if I didn't have to. But I would also feel like a chump if I bought a 30 or 40 thousand new car. Especially if it is anything but a Korean or Japanese car. They are reliable and easier to work on.

I love these
TODO: FIX GAL IMAGES
But the absolute base model starts at $30,000, it devours gas, it is too big to park and American cars are untrustworthy. And what would I even be getting out of this? No woman who didn't want to date me would look at this thing and change her mind. The only girls who would be impressed by it are students.
They're for fun.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
SuperJail Warden
Member
+223|2228

Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

I would never buy a used car if I didn't have to. But I would also feel like a chump if I bought a 30 or 40 thousand new car. Especially if it is anything but a Korean or Japanese car. They are reliable and easier to work on.

I love these
TODO: FIX GAL IMAGES
But the absolute base model starts at $30,000, it devours gas, it is too big to park and American cars are untrustworthy. And what would I even be getting out of this? No woman who didn't want to date me would look at this thing and change her mind. The only girls who would be impressed by it are students.
They're for fun.
No students are not for fun.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,808|5140|949

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

I would never buy a used car if I didn't have to. But I would also feel like a chump if I bought a 30 or 40 thousand new car. Especially if it is anything but a Korean or Japanese car. They are reliable and easier to work on.

I love these
TODO: FIX GAL IMAGES
But the absolute base model starts at $30,000, it devours gas, it is too big to park and American cars are untrustworthy. And what would I even be getting out of this? No woman who didn't want to date me would look at this thing and change her mind. The only girls who would be impressed by it are students.
They're for fun.
No students are not for fun.
mustangs are for girls and 18 year old marines
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
+1,629|5245|Oxferd
And crashing into crowds
https://i.imgur.com/tMvdWFG.png
SuperJail Warden
Member
+223|2228

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:


They're for fun.
No students are not for fun.
mustangs are for girls and 18 year old marines
I agree that why I found a picture of a Dodge Challenger.
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
+1,629|5245|Oxferd
It's always chargers around here for military
https://i.imgur.com/tMvdWFG.png
SuperJail Warden
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RTHKI wrote:

It's always chargers around here for military
Famous meme of soldiers getting 22% interest loans for Chargers. That soldier I ran away from with my bread mask came back from Afghanistan and bought a Charger.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+1,970|3866|London, England
I had a camaro
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,808|5140|949

SuperJail Warden wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:


No students are not for fun.
mustangs are for girls and 18 year old marines
I agree that why I found a picture of a Dodge Challenger.
ok strike the "girls and" from my comment.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,646|4614|eXtreme to the maX

uziq wrote:

'i'm a scientific pessimist' bla bla bla.

i have nothing else to add. if i give you links, you won't read them. let's just do away with any pretence that this is about 'discussion' and just call it 'exhibiting stereotypes'.
Pessimistic realist, and I can't read the links you send.
Epstein didn't kill himself
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+1,762|5280|USA

Interesting read on shipbreaking:

Breaking Bad - Uncovering The Oil Industry's Dirty Secret
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/ao726i … ipbreaking
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+1,970|3866|London, England

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Interesting read on shipbreaking:

Breaking Bad - Uncovering The Oil Industry's Dirty Secret
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/ao726i … ipbreaking
Not really much to do with oil companies, honestly. Shipbreaking went over to India because of all the asbestos litigation here in the States. Insurance on that type of work is astronomical. Most of our stuff we send off for recycling ends up in Southeast Asia. Ironically, our own recycling programs are the biggest driver of the oceanic plastic issues.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+1,762|5280|USA

It did state that oil companies with their tankers and rigs are among their biggest customers. It probably makes sense to, as a hook, point out that an industry so (currently) essential is making use of this kind of careless, polluting, and unsafe labor.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+1,762|5280|USA

The US Space Force: Is It Actually Necessary? 2018/8
https://inhomelandsecurity.com/us-space-force

Fast forward,

For the first time, the US Space Force will actually go to space today 3/26
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/03 … om-florida

Click back a bit and you'll find the launch:



Still seems to me like this could have been done at Air Force levels without complicating the military even further.
SuperJail Warden
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+223|2228
We have a branch of military to fight a type of warfare not even invented yet but can't mass produce ventilators.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+1,762|5280|USA

Give it time and maybe we'll have space ventilators.

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