uziq
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i never get takeout. it was an example. i only really eat takeout food when i’m hungover. which hasn’t been any time recently, haha.
SuperJail Warden
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I would kill for a slice of NYC style pizza with extra cheese.
https://i.redd.it/e8vpo70s28141.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
SuperJail Warden
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Also 26 pages in 3 weeks. This would be into the 100's before a mod closed it for personal attacks back in the good old days.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
uziq
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you could make that from scratch. it's only a little more difficult than cooking rice, macb.
SuperJail Warden
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I do not like cooking. It takes too long and I am not a foody that resents eating a white bread sandwich.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
uziq
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lol 'not a foody'. you're talking about margherita pizza, here. it's about as simple a peasant food as you can get.

if you made your own dough it would take about 30 mins. 5 if you buy a base.

is this why all americans are going to die of coronavirus due to comorbidities like obesity, heart disease, high BP, diabeetus, etc?

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uziq
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ … red-online

a healthy, young 39-y.o. mother shares a video online of her experience about coronavirus and how badly it affected her. and online trolls abuse her for faking the severity of her symptoms. she has a cannula and a catheter, lmao. she will die without respiratory aid. and people are still accusing her of 'hyping' coronavirus's risk.



it's like the Jays of this world are reared on weird-internet news and are immune to fucking factual reality. everything can be spun into a partisan 'it's the loony Left' point. a video of a woman with pale, oxygen-deprived lips, wheezing and coughing, is still 'liberals spreading panic'. lol.

how old is jay and his wife? hope they're safe.

jUst tHe fLu, it iS

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KEN-JENNINGS
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Jay doesn't want people to use things like stats to develop policy, but uses math to do his job
Jay doesn't like when things get politicized but wants health information fed through a political filter
Jay condemns China for keeping silent and pushing down reporting on the pandemic, but then says it's no big deal and people here in the US are panicking.

I feel like there's a word in the english language that describes exactly this type of phenomenon. Hmm. HMMMMM.
KEN-JENNINGS
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+2,978|6846|949

In other news, I'm buying an Xbox today so I can game with my IRL friends.
uziq
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all pubs, cafes, restaurants, public institutions, etc in the UK ordered closed for the foreseeable future.

social distancing predicted to last for the rest of the year.

the government will pay 80% of the unemployed's wages.

it's actually unreal what is happening right now. pub culture is basically the social engine of the UK (for better or for worse). the national way of life has changed overnight, probably for the first time since world war 2, and on similar 'pivoting to war-footing' terms.

god knows how a country which was, apparently, in a suicidal deficit in 2008 with a modest welfare/unemployment bill can suddenly afford to pay a third of the population 80% of their wages. the whole system is going to implode.

'A Decisive Turning Point in History'
https://medium.com/@lucidlewis/march-20 … 0b1c42c457

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uziq
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Jay doesn't want people to use things like stats to develop policy, but uses math to do his job
Jay doesn't like when things get politicized but wants health information fed through a political filter
Jay condemns China for keeping silent and pushing down reporting on the pandemic, but then says it's no big deal and people here in the US are panicking.

I feel like there's a word in the english language that describes exactly this type of phenomenon. Hmm. HMMMMM.
he's the sort of guy who likes his public intellectuals dumb and exasperating. sub-steven pinker and neil degrasse tyson.

'well actually, this isn't as bad as the black death ... or the taiping rebellion ... so ... behold my cool rational equanimity!''

meanwhile america is fronted by the least-suitable president in its history to deal with a crisis of this magnitude. if you thought GWB looked out of his depth sat in that florida schoolroom on the morning of 9/11, wait until this bloviating chancer starts to unravel.



The president – who repeatedly downplayed the threat early in the global outbreak – has this week been hyping an anti-malarial drug, chloroquine, as a possible therapeutic treatment.

“It may work, it may not work,” he said on Friday. “I feel good about it. It’s just a feeling. I’m a smart guy … We have nothing to lose. You know the expression, ‘What the hell do you have to lose?’”

This was originally his campaign pitch to African Americans.

Introducing Pompeo, Trump referred to “the deep state department”, referring to a favourite conspiracy theory which holds that a network of bureaucrats and intelligence officials exists to frustrate the president’s agenda, but which Steve Bannon, who has promoted the theory, has said is for “nut cases”.

On the podium, Dr Fauci glanced at the president, smiled ruefully, brushed his brow and rubbed his jaw in thought.
you are fucked.

look at the face your top public health official makes when your leader starts joking and citing conspiracy theories during a pandemic

https://twitter.com/Walldo/status/12410 … 24481?s=20

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RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

I do not like cooking. It takes too long and I am not a foody that resents eating a white bread sandwich.
https://www.latimes.com/food/story/2020 … ot-of-rice
https://i.imgur.com/tMvdWFG.png
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Not sure how the free world has ended up with the three worst leaders in a long time, Trump, Johnson, Morrison.
Still, the alternatives might actually have been worse, Clinton, Corbyn, the other guy.

https://i.imgur.com/2htKrrD.jpg
Fuck Israel
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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And still we're allowing people into the country and to disperse into the community.
Duh
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/cha … 54cdu.html
Fuck Israel
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
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uziq wrote:

anyway.

Panic, Nonchalance, Precaution, and Responsibility
https://medium.com/@allenfarrington/pan … da8c5318b8

Fires happen occasionally, albeit very rarely. They could be said to have a very low ‘mortality rate’ across the population. The aggregate cost of outfitting adequate fire escapes almost certainly exceeds the costs incurred by fires — or ever likely to be incurred — by several orders of magnitude. But, in this realm, we do not weigh up saved lives in economic terms, within reason. Nobody would accuse proponents of fire escapes of inciting panic. Nobody says we should wait and see if we really need them. If proponents insisted every single door in the world be a fire escape, every wall fireproofed, and every employer required to subsidise a fortnight’s training in fire preparedness, then this criticism would probably be merited. But if all they ask is for fire escapes, I doubt many would see a problem. Moreover, during a rapidly spreading fire seems an odd time to start making such a case.
it's funny that jay works in HVAC and can't wrap his head around the above analogy.
This is all well beyond requiring fire escapes in tenement buildings.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
uziq
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the point is your constant referring to the national overall population is a retarded use of statistics. that's not how public health works.

https://cnn.it/2WsH5CZ

pence's office positive coronavirus test. matter of time before trump confirms he has it too.
uziq
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Not sure how the free world has ended up with the three worst leaders in a long time, Trump, Johnson, Morrison.
Still, the alternatives might actually have been worse, Clinton, Corbyn, the other guy.

the technology algorithms are making people noticeably stupider. that and the slow death of the 'old media' institutions that at least held some power to account and believed, however glancingly, in things like 'fact-checking' and 'truth'.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5572|London, England

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Jay doesn't want people to use things like stats to develop policy, but uses math to do his job
Jay doesn't like when things get politicized but wants health information fed through a political filter
Jay condemns China for keeping silent and pushing down reporting on the pandemic, but then says it's no big deal and people here in the US are panicking.

I feel like there's a word in the english language that describes exactly this type of phenomenon. Hmm. HMMMMM.
I don't like bad math extrapolated from small sample sizes made into policy.
I don't like it when people try to gain their 15 minutes of fame and fan the flames of misinformation because they want to be quoted as an expert. It doesn't have to be political, but it should be filtered through an official source. Having one voice in a crisis is best. What Karen has to say should be ignored.
China sucks in general.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
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uziq wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Jay doesn't want people to use things like stats to develop policy, but uses math to do his job
Jay doesn't like when things get politicized but wants health information fed through a political filter
Jay condemns China for keeping silent and pushing down reporting on the pandemic, but then says it's no big deal and people here in the US are panicking.

I feel like there's a word in the english language that describes exactly this type of phenomenon. Hmm. HMMMMM.
he's the sort of guy who likes his public intellectuals dumb and exasperating. sub-steven pinker and neil degrasse tyson.

'well actually, this isn't as bad as the black death ... or the taiping rebellion ... so ... behold my cool rational equanimity!''

meanwhile america is fronted by the least-suitable president in its history to deal with a crisis of this magnitude. if you thought GWB looked out of his depth sat in that florida schoolroom on the morning of 9/11, wait until this bloviating chancer starts to unravel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont … e=emb_logo

The president – who repeatedly downplayed the threat early in the global outbreak – has this week been hyping an anti-malarial drug, chloroquine, as a possible therapeutic treatment.

“It may work, it may not work,” he said on Friday. “I feel good about it. It’s just a feeling. I’m a smart guy … We have nothing to lose. You know the expression, ‘What the hell do you have to lose?’”

This was originally his campaign pitch to African Americans.

Introducing Pompeo, Trump referred to “the deep state department”, referring to a favourite conspiracy theory which holds that a network of bureaucrats and intelligence officials exists to frustrate the president’s agenda, but which Steve Bannon, who has promoted the theory, has said is for “nut cases”.

On the podium, Dr Fauci glanced at the president, smiled ruefully, brushed his brow and rubbed his jaw in thought.
you are fucked.

look at the face your top public health official makes when your leader starts joking and citing conspiracy theories during a pandemic

https://twitter.com/Walldo/status/12410 … 24481?s=20
He actually hasn't been terrible. I've gained respect for my governor, Andrew Cuomo too. They're all making tough decisions right now.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
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uziq wrote:

the point is your constant referring to the national overall population is a retarded use of statistics. that's not how public health works.

https://cnn.it/2WsH5CZ

pence's office positive coronavirus test. matter of time before trump confirms he has it too.
I'm fairly certain that anything beyond 2 + 2 is beyond your ken, but sure.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
uziq
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trump's administration seems to have made several bad decisions which have made the situation noticeably worse. but OK. trump always performing! top of his game!
uziq
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Jay wrote:

uziq wrote:

the point is your constant referring to the national overall population is a retarded use of statistics. that's not how public health works.

https://cnn.it/2WsH5CZ

pence's office positive coronavirus test. matter of time before trump confirms he has it too.
I'm fairly certain that anything beyond 2 + 2 is beyond your ken, but sure.
ok jay. so you should just let a virus spread uncontrolled and 'work itself out'.

80-90% of the population will become infected in the space of half a year.
you have about 10,000 ventilators available.
each serious case takes 3-4 weeks to clear an ICU.

compute
???

LOL complaining about 'small data sets' when we already know through behavioural computer modelling HOW VIRUSES SPREAD, i.e. exponentially. we long ago had estimates for the contagion factor of coronavirus that put it as 2x as contagious as flu, another disease which we have studied extensively in the past on yuuuuuge data sets.

do you know the difference between deduction and induction? i thought you were criticising my math and logic skill?

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Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5572|London, England
Anyway, it looks like the death rate is going to end up at about 0.8%. Compared to the flu, which is 0.1%, it's scary. If one were to extrapolate the number of flu deaths out from a normal year, we'd hit about 176,000 deaths globally from the coronavirus. With all the insane measures we're taking right now, I'd think it will hit maybe 40k tops, hopefully. We'll see.

Stay safe everyone. Unfortunately, I work in what is considered a critical industry and still have to go into work. Everyone else in New York is basically on lockdown right now besides groceries and health services.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
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uziq wrote:

Jay wrote:

uziq wrote:

the point is your constant referring to the national overall population is a retarded use of statistics. that's not how public health works.

https://cnn.it/2WsH5CZ

pence's office positive coronavirus test. matter of time before trump confirms he has it too.
I'm fairly certain that anything beyond 2 + 2 is beyond your ken, but sure.
ok jay. so you should just let a virus spread uncontrolled and 'work itself out'.

80-90% of the population will become infected in the space of half a year.
you have about 10,000 ventilators available.
each serious case takes 3-4 weeks to clear an ICU.

compute
???

LOL complaining about 'small data sets' when we already know through behavioural computer modelling HOW VIRUSES SPREAD, i.e. exponentially. we long ago had estimates for the contagion factor of coronavirus that put it as 2x as contagious as flu, another disease which we have studied extensively in the past on yuuuuuge data sets.

do you know the difference between deduction and induction? i thought you were criticising my math and logic skill?
We have fundamentally different outlooks on life. I am optimistic by nature and expect things to work out. You are naturally pessimistic. We're never going to see eye to eye, and frankly, it's pointless.

I wish you the best of health.

Last edited by Jay (2020-03-20 16:39:16)

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
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so you agree the measures are totally necessary otherwise a helluva lot of people would die. glad you came around. took you 25 pages.

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