because you only have to dabble in heroin a few times and you're caught. you do realise that some recreational drugs are far more addictive and have far higher abuse potential than others, right? it doesn't surprise me that rockstars, actors, celebs etc. dabble with just about every drug possible: but they gravitate and centre around drugs like heroin because that's not something you can use recreationally and maintain control over. my point is people take those drugs for the first few (voluntary) times because they are duped by the whole heroin-addict/doomed-poet heroin glamour ('heroin chic' is a fucking genre in fashion for god's sake; it's a thing).
Dilbert_X wrote:I'm sure those people had a complete smorgasbord of drugs to choose from, money was no object, and yet they gravitated to heroin.
uziq wrote:also dilderp, heroin was glamorous in rock music. it was part of those social circles from the velvet underground on (and it was the drug of choice in hip-cool jazz circles for plenty of time before that). of course if you're a rockstar, heroin is going to be around you, heroin addicts and heroin pushers too. you are eliding fucking rock stars with average weekend drug-taking edwards. i think rockstars, writers, poets, etc., getting addicted to heroin is like a self-perpetuating little sideshow. that's a very weird subcultural 'glamour' that your suburban kid experimenting with molly is never going to get.
DesertFox- wrote:Way to cherry-pick a bunch of people well-known for their drug use (and PSH, but I don't know much about his personal life) and sprinkle in the "weak people" phrase that no one but you has said. Oxycontin wasn't released until 1996, with an aggressive marketing campaign and certain outright lies. It's not surprising the current crisis affects more vastly more average people than those you've picked.
It would be interesting to know why, I doubt there was any 'glamour' to it for them, there's no a whole lot of glamour in boiling up your own blood and reinjecting it into yourself., it was their use which lent glamour to it.
my basic point still stands that your average thrill-seeking, partying recreational drug user is not going to make the lightyears-leap from MDMA at a rave to heroin addiction because of 'boredom'. it is not the same sociocultural cachet at all. and taking uppers and fun party drugs does not make you mentally disposed to try the biggest downer drugs. they have intrinsically different appeals. nobody gets bored of snorting cocaine in cocktail bar toilets with their business pals and then picks up heroin, just 'cuz.
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