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uziq
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complete non-story, the mac pro tower has always been exorbitantly expensive and only bought by industry/businesses and written off as tax deductibles. in other news, herman miller chairs are expensive.

you forgot to mention the $1,000 monitor stand for their industry-standard reference monitor.
unnamednewbie13
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I didn't exactly present this information as if it were some grand revelation. Just that next to it, the laptops are refreshingly cheap. The video you posted went on at some length about the pricing, as do many other reviews.

e: At a point where it's still well within my budget to pick one up sometime this year even on top of slapping replacement MB/CPU/RAM in my PC tower. Separating gaming from my work devices is an attractive prospect for me.

e2: Spent awhile fiddling around with one on display at Best Buy today. Responsive, clean. Smooth operating for Final Cut. Best trackpad I've used so far. Good keyboard. Garbage acoustics in the store, so I didn't bother listening, but I'll trust the feedback I've read. The biggest detraction for me is the lack of a built-in numberpad, but given an option I would still take the speakers.

Am jelly.
SuperJail Warden
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I am not familiar with the tech behind 5G but I have been following the news about the U.S. pressuring countries to not contract Chinese companies to build it.

My question is: are there U.S. companies that can build 5G networks? Why are the Chinese getting contracted to build these networks instead of U.S. or Europeans? Why doesn't America have 5G yet? I have heard places in China already have it.
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
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Places here have it.
https://i.imgur.com/tMvdWFG.png
uziq
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china is just years ahead because they have been ploughing fantastically huge amounts of money into R&D.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
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I believe South Korea was first to market with a general rollout of 5G.

China (and South Korea) are ahead bc their governments prioritized the technology and rollout. Innovation is often not driven by market forces, unfortunate as it may be to some worldviews.
uziq
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does anyone seriously think any major tech investment hasn’t been state funded? i mean almost every device we use in our homes has some military R&D stamp somewhere.
Dilbert_X
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Intel, IBM, Apple, Bell Labs, STC, Corning have largely been commercially funded. That covers most tech and telecoms development.
Invention of the IC did not come from the space program.

You can assume pretty well anything which comes out of China is govt controlled.

Nation-scale rollouts will usually be govt funded obviously. Cell-phone networks typically weren't though in many countries.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2020-02-22 04:35:06)

Epstein didn't kill himself
uziq
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pretty much all of those companies were established on the back of state projects. silicon valley was originally full of government warehouses making transistors, no?
Dilbert_X
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Erm no.
Epstein didn't kill himself

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