Didn't say homos and trannies can't be professional, don't put fucking words in my mouth,
KEN-JENNINGS wrote:because only Homos can't be professional, and Transgenders are inherently unprofessional.
War Man wrote:Not a matter of patriotism, but of practicality and effectiveness.
AussieReaper wrote:Are they any less patriotic than you Warman?
Should they not be allowed to fight for the flag of their fathers?
Which physical standards would you put man-to-woman and woman-to-man trannies at? Which barracks do we put them in? Do we a create 1-2 more separate facilities for them? How do you think other soldiers' morale would be like fighting alongside them? How effective would a unit with at least one tranny be compared to say, an all male non-tranny unit?
Homosexual and transgendered people in the military are two different things. I am fine with homosexuals, as long as they are professional, but trannies are a different matter that is more complicated.
Why would you need to create separate facilities? You understand they transition from Male to Female or Female to Male, not to Chimeras or dolphins, right? Pretty sure we have facilities already built for male and female soldiers. Last I checked it's not a complication the Armed Forces has had to waste a lot of time understanding the practicality and effectiveness of.
Regarding the morale "issue", it's a non-issue. You're a military fetishist, you should know the indoctrination regarding "brotherhood" and "no soldier left behind". I would imagine people are able to extend that feeling to yes, EVEN transgenders (GASP!). And if they can't, they shouldn't be representing American ideals.
There is a physical difference between men and women in the armed forces and they are given different physical fitness tests/requirements. Men to women were born men and have male physicality despite transforming into women, which means they would go under male physical fitness standards and be in male bunks which they wouldn't necessarily be a fan of and eliminate the point of them going through sex change because they would have to treated as men despite wanting to be treated as women. Similar situation with women to men except they are pumped with testosterone and therefore more than surpass the female physical standards, much to the irritation of fellow female soldiers who may call foul.
This isn't about being morally righteous. Social justice can't apply to every single fucking thing. For fucksake there are middle aged people who would like to serve but aren't allowed to because of their age, where is the fucking voice for them? At least people too young to join the service can grow old, can't say the same to people who are older than the age limit. Where is the crying foul for them?
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.