Presidential Election 2016

2016-01-29 15:02:08

#551

uziq: Member; +492|3452

SuperJail Warden wrote:
As for your author

http://www.amazon.com/Cold-Peace-Strugg … 0812922050
As political and economic forces push the three superpowers--the United States, Germany and Japan--further apart, the Cold War could give way to a very "cold peace." That is the prognosis of Garten, who held senior White House and State Department posts under Nixon, Ford and Carter and is now an investment banker, in an important, clear-eyed book for anyone struggling to come to grips with the changing world order. Drawing on his broad experience, he argues that many disputes among the "Big Three" are rooted in the different kinds of capitalism the three countries practice. Relations among the Big Three, he predicts, may deteriorate through squabbles over regional trade blocs, aid to the former Soviet Union and the role of the U.N. and the World Bank. Garten paints a sobering picture of the "German Empire" 's dominant role within the European Community and of Japan's tightening rein over its East Asian superbloc.[ Calling for collective Big Three leadership to solve mutual problems, he predicts that America in the '90s will measure itself against what Japan and Germany are becoming.
Can you ask him how he feels about fucking that prediction up?

germany has pirouetted and pretty much scored a victory as the de facto leader of europe through banking shenanigans. lending bad credit, the same old depressing picture. so he's not altogether wrong on that one. japan dropping off after their managerial/tech boom – yeah, okay. not sure anyone saw that coming. i'm not sure how much he'll appreciate me shitting on his old books though, haha. it's not like i even care. macro-economics always involves an element of prognosticating, no?

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2016-01-29 15:26:34

#552

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +635|3719

uziq wrote:
SuperJail Warden wrote:
As for your author

http://www.amazon.com/Cold-Peace-Strugg … 0812922050
As political and economic forces push the three superpowers--the United States, Germany and Japan--further apart, the Cold War could give way to a very "cold peace." That is the prognosis of Garten, who held senior White House and State Department posts under Nixon, Ford and Carter and is now an investment banker, in an important, clear-eyed book for anyone struggling to come to grips with the changing world order. Drawing on his broad experience, he argues that many disputes among the "Big Three" are rooted in the different kinds of capitalism the three countries practice. Relations among the Big Three, he predicts, may deteriorate through squabbles over regional trade blocs, aid to the former Soviet Union and the role of the U.N. and the World Bank. Garten paints a sobering picture of the "German Empire" 's dominant role within the European Community and of Japan's tightening rein over its East Asian superbloc.[ Calling for collective Big Three leadership to solve mutual problems, he predicts that America in the '90s will measure itself against what Japan and Germany are becoming.
Can you ask him how he feels about fucking that prediction up?
germany has pirouetted and pretty much scored a victory as the de facto leader of europe through banking shenanigans. lending bad credit, the same old depressing picture. so he's not altogether wrong on that one. japan dropping off after their managerial/tech boom – yeah, okay. not sure anyone saw that coming. i'm not sure how much he'll appreciate me shitting on his old books though, haha. it's not like i even care. macro-economics always involves an element of prognosticating, no?

I know I just found that funny. Most books about contemporary and future politics are usually wrong. I read a bit of a book published in 2012 or 2013 about how the NATO system was bound for failure because of a lack of outside threat due to global trade yadda yadda. And I have a book about the history of iraq published by Cambridge in 2010 that ended with the author being afraid of Iraq slipping back in authoritarianism and aggressive relations with its neighbors in order to satisfy national aspirations. A+ calls there. lol

Political and international economics was really my least favorite and interesting part of my political science education though. So boring .

2016-01-29 16:29:47

#553

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6772|PNW

Keeps getting better and better. I remember recently hearing some Trump supporters lauding his veterans' fundraiser as "good politics" and "a nice thing to do." Later: Trump’s Webpage Raising Money ‘For Vets’ Sends Funds to Trump’s Foundation. That and all the other steaming shits he took on vets in the past should wrap that praise up.

Even if Trump wanted to be honest about it, good luck finding any takers.

pirana6 wrote:
unnamednewbie13 wrote:
zeek wrote:
stop valorising his way of address as if he's a breath of fresh air. his shit stinks.
That's just it, it IS a breath of fresh air. Unfortunately his shit DOES stink.

No, it isn't. Because among other reasons, yes, it does.

2016-01-29 16:43:00

#554

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +635|3719

I can't wait for the Trump SS to take newbie

2016-01-29 22:07:56

#555

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6772|PNW

Yeah, well, I'm pretty sure they'll be too busy:

2016-02-01 07:52:05

#556

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +635|3719

Trump would be awful for a president. If I had to pick a republican though I would pick Trump. I rather Trump burn the country to the ground than live 4-8 years under any mainstream republican president. Same outcome just quicker.

2016-02-01 09:31:21

#557

DesertFox-: The very model of a modern major general; +794|6685|United States of America

That's stupid.

2016-02-01 10:13:39

#558

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +635|3719

Do you really think Cruz and a republican majority congress will be much worse than Trump? I don't.

2016-02-01 17:15:31

#559

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6772|PNW

SuperJail Warden wrote:
If I had to pick a republican

Beauty part is you don't have to pick a Republican.

2016-02-01 20:05:54

#560

pirana6: Go Cougs!; +682|6291|Washington St.

Trump came in 2nd in Iowa. Can everyone relax a bit. He also came in 2nd to the candidate de jour

2016-02-01 20:05:56

#561

Ty: Mass Media Casualty; +2,398|6774|Noizyland

10% left to count for the Dems, only .2% in it. Fun.

Edit: What is with this deciding caucus votes with coin tosses? Fuck's sake America.

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2016-02-01 20:47:57

#562

DrunkFace: Germans did 911; +427|6681|Disaster Free Zone

How can you elect someone with only 28% of the votes?

This is not deciding what is for dinner but electing the most powerful person in the world. America your electoral process is broken.

2016-02-01 21:02:20

#563

pirana6: Go Cougs!; +682|6291|Washington St.

DrunkFace wrote:
How can you elect someone with only 28% of the votes?

This is not deciding what is for dinner but electing the most powerful person in the world. America your electoral process is broken.

You may not be wrong but I think you have a misunderstanding of how primaries work

2016-02-01 21:45:11

#564

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6716

pirana6 wrote:
DrunkFace wrote:
How can you elect someone with only 28% of the votes?

This is not deciding what is for dinner but electing the most powerful person in the world. America your electoral process is broken.
You may not be wrong but I think you have a misunderstanding of how primaries work

I think he's just saying how stupid first past the post is.

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2016-02-02 02:14:25

#565

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,810|6106|eXtreme to the maX

DrunkFace wrote:
How can you elect someone with only 28% of the votes?

This is not deciding what is for dinner but electing the most powerful person in the world. America your electoral process is broken.

If there are more than two candidates then its unlikely anyone will get a clear majority.

Australian governments rarely get a clear majority from the raw vote.

Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй!

2016-02-02 02:52:42

#566

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,810|6106|eXtreme to the maX

Iowa caucus results

Republican vote, 99% reported:
◾Ted Cruz: 28%, eight delegates
◾Donald Trump: 24%, seven delegates
◾Marco Rubio: 23%, seven delegates
◾Ben Carson: 9%, three delegates
◾Rand Paul, Jeb Bush: one delegate each. Chris Christie, Carly Fiorina, Jim Gilmore, Mike Huckabee, John Kasich and Rick Santorum: no delegates

Democratic vote, 99% reported:
◾Hillary Clinton: 50%, 22 delegates
◾Bernie Sanders 50%, 21 delegates
◾Martin O'Malley, 1%, no delegates

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2016-02-02 04:43:45

#567

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5358|London, England

DrunkFace wrote:
How can you elect someone with only 28% of the votes?

This is not deciding what is for dinner but electing the most powerful person in the world. America your electoral process is broken.

These are primaries. People are voting within the Democratic and Republican parties for who will represent their party in the November national election. Some states are winner-take-all, some are proportional like Iowa.

Yes, it makes presidential campaigns absurdly long.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2016-02-02 06:45:22

#568

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +635|3719

We should just switch to a parliament.

2016-02-02 06:52:41

#569

d4rkph03n1x: Member; +131|6749

Hi, just dropping in to state a casually informed yet widely accepted opinion that nothing will change regardless of who wins come general election time. The sad truth of western democracy is that it doesn't work properly. Unless you call siphoning currency all the way up to the upper echelon "working", in which case, everything is going as intended.

2016-02-02 07:05:52

#570

DesertFox-: The very model of a modern major general; +794|6685|United States of America

SuperJail Warden wrote:
We should just switch to a parliament.

#MakeAmericaLessUnrepresentativeAgain #hashtagneedswork

2016-02-02 10:24:20

#571

uziq: Member; +492|3452

d4rkph03n1x wrote:
Hi, just dropping in to state a casually informed yet widely accepted opinion that nothing will change regardless of who wins come general election time. The sad truth of western democracy is that it doesn't work properly. Unless you call siphoning currency all the way up to the upper echelon "working", in which case, everything is going as intended.

not every western democracy is determined by lobbyists and financial transactions.

2016-02-02 17:35:17

#572

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +635|3719

The country needs to be conquered and have its political system rebuilt by some trustworthy outsiders like we did to Japan and Germany.

2016-02-03 17:06:28

#573

DrunkFace: Germans did 911; +427|6681|Disaster Free Zone

WTF is with the democrats caucus thing. How fucked up can you make a voting system?

2016-02-03 17:43:24

#574

pirana6: Go Cougs!; +682|6291|Washington St.

I'm confused, is it that the republican caucus has their shit together?

Or caucuses in general?

2016-02-04 01:36:14

#575

Ty: Mass Media Casualty; +2,398|6774|Noizyland

All pretty meaningless though isn't it? I'm pretty sure you do it just so once every four years Iowa gets to feel important. Trump will likely do better in New Hampshire as will Sanders. Both are still long shots for the main prize.

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