BF2S Forums Australian politics thread.

That's not really comparable, Australians can't vote in the NZ election, whatever that is.

For an Australian to be able to vote in the New Zealand election they just need to be a permanent resident. All you need for that is to hold a residents visa for at least two years. Since Australians are granted a residents visa automatically basically it means any Australian who has spent two years in New Zealand can attain permanent residency and vote in the New Zealand election.

To vote in Australia's elections you need to be a citizen and New Zealanders attaining Australian citizenship is notoriously difficult. It's all kinds of bullshit really.

Ty wrote:

For an Australian to be able to vote in the New Zealand election they just need to be a permanent resident. All you need for that is to hold a residents visa for at least two years. Since Australians are granted a residents visa automatically basically it means any Australian who has spent two years in New Zealand can attain permanent residency and vote in the New Zealand election.

To vote in Australia's elections you need to be a citizen and New Zealanders attaining Australian citizenship is notoriously difficult. It's all kinds of bullshit really.

yeah i know, aus' argument is that it stops "backdoor immigration" since NZ has laxer immigration policies than Aus and there are quite a few people who do get NZ citizenship and then move onto aus right afterwards.

I think NZ should reciprocate the rules towards aussies if we go back on our agreements and what not.

But anyway, I doubt many NZers would want to face a fine for not voting in aussie elections

Honestly right now the Civilian Party is a very real consideration for me. They're almost as funny as Colin Craig.

Because they live in New Zealand and wish to partake in the democratic election of those that wield political power in society? Just a guess.

Election results are interesting so far. Looks like Kim Dotcom's legacy in terms of influencing New Zealand politics is going to be a great wet fart if Hone Harawira doesn't win his seat and secure a place for InternetMana - and he's currently losing. That result would be positive, I absolutely hate the shit Dotcom's brought to NZ politics and this election and would love to see him fail in the failiest way he has ever failed.

More power than Tony Abbott. NZ is unicameral, John Key can actually pass the legislation he wants to.

National won, increasing their lead on last time. Hone lost his seat, Dotcom's party failed to win anything. Colin Craig's party didn't manage to get 5% of the vote so didn't win any seats for the Conservatives either. Basically what I thought would happen happened. It's been a messy fucking campaign and in chaos people cling to what's familiar, a.k.a the current Government. Fair play to the Labour Party, they actually tried to campaign on policy but got drowned out in the bullshit.

How did we let a bigoted foreigner get into power?

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Cybargs wrote:

how did you guys let a fat foreigner get into political power lol.

Well we didn't thankfully. Dotcom's just been in politics since he started his bizarre vendetta against Key over the raid on his Bond-esque mansion. It's a complete ego thing, he likes playing the big fish in the small pond that is New Zealand and thinks with his resources and his charisma he can get people on side and have a realistic chance at having his people in Government. Kind of like Clive Palmer except with even less ability to relate to anyone. Dotcom tried to appeal to the disenfranchised and overall ignorant Internet generation and found that they actually are more considered than he thought they were. Or at least weren't so gullible as to get sucked into his grand scheme. Or maybe they just didn't/couldn't vote.

It was weird, Dotcom had his big "Moment of Truth" thing the other week and you had Kim Dotcom, Glenn Greenwald, Edward Snowden, and Julian Assange - a German, two Americans, and an Australian - lined up on a stage telling New Zealanders what they should think and who they should vote for. And there were people who really thought this would be the thing the ended John Key's Government.

The lack of objectivity from the left in particular has been great to watch. It's exactly like Fox News after the 2012 US presidential election wondering how they could have possibly lost despite telling themselves so hard that they were right and everyone agreed with them.

I have a friend who was a big backer of Dotcom and the whole movement against Key. He's gutted by the result, shouting about conspiracies and ignorance and a nation of sheep, (har har,) begetting a government of wolves. It's hilarious.

But anyway, Dotcom didn't get in. He even tuned voters off his coalition partner Hone Harawira costing him his electorate and his job and ended up driving people away from the Labour and Green parties as well. A big flabby fail all round.

Got to love the conditions Cambodia is placing on the asylum seekers they may accept. A year in a prison camp in Phnom Penh and then they're barred from living anywhere but regional areas. The scarier thing is that it is optional and many asylum seekers may see that as preferable to remaining under Australian care in Nauru.

Scott Morrison toasting to the suffering of women and children. What a cunt.

Jaekus wrote:

Scott Morrison toasting to the suffering of women and children. What a cunt.

omg we must stop isis coz people are sufferingggggggg, we must do everything to help them!

but fuck those refos cunt.

Dilbert_X wrote:

If Abbott weren't a faggot he'd tell Putin to fuck off and stay at home.

but he wants a shirt off with putin.