Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5600|London, England
Those benefits are the only thing getting people to fight your wars for you, chickenhawk. Patriotism only goes so far.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Macbeth
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Well you people sure act like you are doing some noble and honorable shit. I'm glad you agree that most soldiers are glorified mercenaries.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5600|London, England

Macbeth wrote:

Well you people sure act like you are doing some noble and honorable shit. I'm glad you agree that most soldiers are glorified mercenaries.
Of course they are. They're still worthy of respect because they do sacrifice for the common good. Being in the military isn't exactly a lucrative career. I personally gave up hundreds of thousands of dollars by serving.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Macbeth
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Yeah community college is the key to vast wealth.

They aren't worthy of respect. Killing goat farmers with drones isn't a sacrifice for the common good.
Cybargs
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Macbeth wrote:

Yeah community college is the key to vast wealth.

They aren't worthy of respect. Killing goat farmers with drones isn't a sacrifice for the common good.
oh my god shut the fuck up. nobody cares about your jealousy with military people. we all know you hate them coz one of your ex's banged a national guard dude. admit it macbeth you liar.
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Macbeth
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My ex didn't care for military people either.
Cybargs
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answer the question beth, did she bang a national guard dude?
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Macbeth
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No. She didn't. Yawn.
unnamednewbie13
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Macbeth wrote:

Pell grants are for low income people. FREE MONEY. You got double handouts from the military and civilian governments. That isn't earning anything. If people in the military want to be treated like heroes they shouldn't be asking for a laundry list of benefits and incentives.
Why shouldn't the government incentivize military membership? Would you rather have the draft again?
Cybargs
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Pell grants are for low income people. FREE MONEY. You got double handouts from the military and civilian governments. That isn't earning anything. If people in the military want to be treated like heroes they shouldn't be asking for a laundry list of benefits and incentives.
Why shouldn't the government incentivize military membership? Would you rather have the draft again?
he wants the draft back coz apparently since he's in college he wouldnt be drafted.
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Macbeth
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I don't care if they incentivize or not. They should in fact because the whole thing works better if they do. My issues is their behavior as if they are doing it for my benefit and not their own. It is a job. Treat it like such.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|7014|PNW

So the guy in the Coast Guard fishing you out of stormy water should be mocked because he joined with some sort of personal gain in mind?
Macbeth
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Not mocked. Just not get a parade.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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But glorification is a part of the incentive. Does that really affect you personally that the military marches in parade? Other people seem to enjoy watching them. The bands are also cool.
Macbeth
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It doesn't affect me beyond being annoying but the glory that we give them has its toxic side too. I'm sure you remember the post 9/11 climate. I'm sure you remember the dehumanization of the Iraqis that became popular since they fought "our boys". The easy justification of nuking civilians to save "our heroes" and so on.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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Banning military parades and throwing dogshit at veterans isn't going to stop redneck chickenhawks from thinking we should just nuke every country we go to war with.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,815|6348|eXtreme to the maX

Jay wrote:

I personally gave up hundreds of thousands of dollars by serving.
How exactly? Are you going to come up with some convoluted argument that you could have taken a loan for college and graduated sooner thus entering the workforce sooner but didn't?
If so you didn't 'give up' anything, you took a choice.

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Fuck Israel
Extra Medium
THE UZI SLAYER
+79|4438|Oklahoma

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Banning military parades and throwing dogshit at veterans isn't going to stop redneck chickenhawks from thinking we should just nuke every country we go to war with.
We should start with the Tri-state area.
Macbeth
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An Army veteran was kicked off the North Wildwood boardwalk and issued a summons Thursday because he was walking with his service dog, according to local police and a Florida news report.

Jared Goering, a Tampa resident and 19-year U.S. Army veteran, was taking his first vacation in years with his wife Sally in North Wildwood when a police officer stopped him because he was walking with his dog Navigator, he told ABC's Tampa affiliate.

The officer told Goering there were no dogs allowed on the boardwalk except guide dogs and issued him a summons. Goering showed the officer the dog's special service collar, but the officer was unapologetic, according to the report.

"He went on to say that, 'What are they doing? Giving every vet a dog now?' " Sally Goering told ABC.

Goering brought the matter to a supervisor with the department, who retrieved the summons and filed for a dismissal, according to a press release from North Wildwood Police.

"An internal affairs investigation was initiated and the incident will be thoroughly investigated by the Internal Affairs supervisor," North Wildwood police said today.

Goering entered retirement in 2009 after he suffered two IED explosions in Afghanistan within a 36-hour period, ABC reported. He that after suffering through the debilitating aftermath, his service dog has allowed him to lead a normal life and feel comfortable in crowds.
Right on officer. You don't get treated special just because your dog makes you not sad.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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It's a service dog. The summons will likely be dismissed by the department. This is about as non-issue as it gets, along the same lines as an officer being rude to a driver on a traffic stop.

There is no way you can reasonably twist this against veterans in general.
A2TG2
Hazbeen
+67|4767|at your six
Meanwhile, at the border.
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War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+564|6956|Purplicious Wisconsin

Macbeth wrote:

An Army veteran was kicked off the North Wildwood boardwalk and issued a summons Thursday because he was walking with his service dog, according to local police and a Florida news report.

Jared Goering, a Tampa resident and 19-year U.S. Army veteran, was taking his first vacation in years with his wife Sally in North Wildwood when a police officer stopped him because he was walking with his dog Navigator, he told ABC's Tampa affiliate.

The officer told Goering there were no dogs allowed on the boardwalk except guide dogs and issued him a summons. Goering showed the officer the dog's special service collar, but the officer was unapologetic, according to the report.

"He went on to say that, 'What are they doing? Giving every vet a dog now?' " Sally Goering told ABC.

Goering brought the matter to a supervisor with the department, who retrieved the summons and filed for a dismissal, according to a press release from North Wildwood Police.

"An internal affairs investigation was initiated and the incident will be thoroughly investigated by the Internal Affairs supervisor," North Wildwood police said today.

Goering entered retirement in 2009 after he suffered two IED explosions in Afghanistan within a 36-hour period, ABC reported. He that after suffering through the debilitating aftermath, his service dog has allowed him to lead a normal life and feel comfortable in crowds.
Right on officer. You don't get treated special just because your dog makes you not sad.
You should have an IED detonate near you and surviv. Let's see how you feel then, you fucking disrespectful asshole.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Macbeth
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You weren't even in the military so hush.
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+564|6956|Purplicious Wisconsin

Macbeth wrote:

You weren't even in the military so hush.
You have the nerve tell me to hush because I am not in the military yet? You shut the fuck up about the US military you fucking disrespectful hypocrite. Maybe there should be a draft back to discipline worthless creepy fucks like you.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Macbeth
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Oh boy. Dude you are pretty much the textbook definition of a backwoods yodel who has a military hard on. Sorry to rag on your homoerotic soldier fantasy.

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