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Dilbert_X wrote:

Extra Medium wrote:

The imperialist U.K. is a crumbling empire who's citizens will soon devolve back into the mud farmers from whence they came.

At least they're not mud farmers now.

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Uzique The Lesser wrote:

my nan served in the women's territorial. she loaded ammo and munitions onto a secret railroad track that supplied a woodland depot.

vet

BVC wrote:

The UK isn't an empire, its a country, which shares it's head of state with a bunch of other countries.  Her majesty may hold the power of veto over laws in her collection of countries, but she can't actually order them to war etc as an emporer could.  King George VI was the last British Emporer.

Useless trivia time: Queen Elizabeth the 2nd served with the Auxiliary Territorial Service during WW2.  That makes her a WW2 veteran, even if it was just manning the odd searchlight.  Considering the attitude towards woman in combat at the time, thats actually quite a decent post.

Spearhead wrote:

BVC wrote:

The UK isn't an empire, its a country, which shares it's head of state with a bunch of other countries.  Her majesty may hold the power of veto over laws in her collection of countries, but she can't actually order them to war etc as an emporer could.  King George VI was the last British Emporer.

Useless trivia time: Queen Elizabeth the 2nd served with the Auxiliary Territorial Service during WW2.  That makes her a WW2 veteran, even if it was just manning the odd searchlight.  Considering the attitude towards woman in combat at the time, thats actually quite a decent post.

When your very biological survival and national sovereignty is existentially threatened, gender roles get thrown out the window pretty quick.  That seems to be a pretty much universal principle.  I saw some photos from Syria and there are pictures of women right beside men manning sniper rifles...

US Secretary of State John Kerry has reportedly promised his Venezuelan counterpart to close NATO airspace to the country’s flights and stop crucial oil product deliveries if Caracas grants asylum to NSA leaker Edward Snowden.

Last Friday night, just hours after Venezuela agreed to provide political asylum to former NSA contractor Edward Snowden, Kerry personally called Venezuelan Foreign Minister Elias Jaua, a Spanish ABC media outlet cites a source familiar with the conversation as saying.

Kerry threatened to ground any Venezuelan aircraft in America’s or any NATO country’s airspace if there is the slightest suspicion that Snowden is using the flight to get to Caracas.

The US’ top diplomat sent a clear signal that Venezuela’s Air Force One is not immune and President Nicolas Maduro could easily face the same fate as his Bolivian counterpart Evo Morales, whose plane was grounded for inspection in Austria earlier this month in violation of all international diplomatic agreements. 

“Immunity is for the president, not the plane,” the ABC source cites Kerry’s personal message to President Maduro as saying.

Closing all NATO member countries’ aerospace to Venezuelan flights means avoiding 26 countries in Europe and two in North America. Under this scenario, it would be safer for Snowden to fly across the Pacific from Russia’s Far Eastern city of Vladivostok instead of crossing the Atlantic.

Kerry also promised to intensify the ongoing process of revoking US entry visas to Venezuelan officials and businessmen associated with the deceased President Hugo Chavez.

Washington will also begin prosecuting prominent Venezuelan politicians on allegations of drug trafficking, money laundering and other criminal actions, Kerry reportedly said, and specifically mentioned some names in his conversation with the Venezuelan FM.

He further said that Washington is well aware of Venezuela’s dependence on the US when it comes to refined oil products. Despite being one of the world’s largest oil producers, Venezuela requires more petrol and oil products than it can produce, buying around 500,000 barrels of gasoline every month, roughly another half million barrels of fuel for power plants, and some 350,000 barrels of MTBE (Methyl Tertiary Butyl Ether) – the  additive used for to increase octane in gasoline. 

The US Secretary of State bluntly warned that fuel supplies would be halted if President Maduro continues to reach out to the fugitive NSA contractor.

Neither the US State Department nor the Venezuelan Foreign Ministry have so far commented on ABC’s report.

On July 19 President Maduro sharply criticized a statement by the Obama administration's nominee for UN envoy, Samantha Powers, who accused countries like Cuba, Iran, Russia and Venezuela of being guilty of a “crackdown on civil society”. Maduro called on Washington to retract the “despicable” statement.

“I want an immediate correction by the US government,” Maduro said live on state television, as quoted by Reuters.

“Power says she'll fight repression in Venezuela? What repression? There is repression in the United States, where they kill African-Americans with impunity, and where they hunt the youngster Edward Snowden just for telling the truth,” Maduro fumed.

Former CIA technician and NSA contractor Snowden remains a fugitive without a passport, as he has remained stuck in Moscow's Sheremetyevo International Airport for nearly a month. Snowden requested temporary asylum from Russia and has not officially accepted Maduro's asylum offer, WikiLeaks says.

If extradited to the US, where Showden is wanted on espionage charges, he fears he could face inhumane treatment and even the death penalty for leaking details of the National Security Agency’s dragnet surveillance programs.

Extra Medium wrote:

I think they want him more for making them all look bad more so than for breaking a law.

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

where do you stand on snowden, EM?

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

interesting. so you're very republican in your social views but you like it when people stick it to the government. you're a jay-style small-government supporter too, then?

Macbeth wrote:

The states rights movement is such bullshit. Sometimes wish we were a unitary parliamentary government.

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

Extra Medium wrote:

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

interesting. so you're very republican in your social views but you like it when people stick it to the government. you're a jay-style small-government supporter too, then?

I'm only a republican because their views are more closely aligned with my own at the current moment.  I'm a registered independent and have voted Democrat more than once.  (While I didn't physically vote for Obama the first time around, I did support him because he was the least worst choice.  Palin turned me away from McCain).  I'm very conservative with my social and fiscal views and I have always said that I support small government with the maximum amount of state government control possible.  I very adamantly believe that letting states set their own individual laws and getting away from a federal style law system would solve at least 80% of America's problems.


.........AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNDDDDD before you even go there, I DO NOT support Bradley Manning.

je comprends.

Macbeth wrote:

Extra Medium wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

The states rights movement is such bullshit. Sometimes wish we were a unitary parliamentary government.

You are a fucking idiot and your opinion is lower than snake shit here.  Go away and let the grown ups talk.

Everyone is already sick of your "grown up talk" so hush