Side thought. You are a prime example of brainwashing. You honeslty believe that Britain was the "good guyz" in all of this shit simply because they won and told you they were.
where?
Uzique The Lesser wrote:
the german and british establishments were incredibly close. both wars in europe were essentially family arguments at the dinner table.
Uzique The Lesser wrote:
where did i say that? i said our establishments were close. think you may like to check a dictionary.
you do know what an establishment is in europe, right?
Uzique The Lesser wrote:
you do know what an establishment is in europe, right?
Establishment, monarchies, royalty, etc, had nothing to do with any of it.both wars in europe were essentially family arguments at the dinner table.
where did i say they caused it again? . . .
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Ok then, if you weren't saying that then what the hell were you trying to say?Uzique The Lesser wrote:
where did i say they caused it again? . . .
Because you didn't partition Kashmir in a way that made both happy.Uzique The Lesser wrote:
the israel-palestine settlement suggested by the brits is 100x better than any current-day situ.
also LOL at the versailles treaty and the iranian revolution.
haaaaaaaaaaahahahaha.
and how are you blaming india's state on britain? india-pakistan is what they wanted. british overseers didn't. it was a bad move from gandhi.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
there is no way to partition kashmir to make india and pakistan happy. both india and pakistan benefitted hugely from the national organisation and development offered by the british empire. infrastructure that their old method of local government and in-fighting likely wouldn't have developed for decades and decades more. no imperial parent or ex-lover is going to be able to settle conclusively a muslims vs. hindu thing. that is older than the raj. talking about hypothetical other ways to settle kashmir is like talking about other ways iraq would have gone if you'd left saddam that way. let's not even gripe about your conflict resolution. as it stands right now you've got two large countries in a state of complete civil-war chaos. and you're helping to destabilise more.
extra medium are you having trouble with the most basic english? i said the english and german establishments are so close that the world wars were 'effectively family fights at a dinner table'. all of our senior politicians, military officers, aristocrats, public figures etc. were closely enmeshed with 'high society' in weimar, france, greece, austro-hungary, etc. the war was basically a bunch of young men being sent to die by a class of people who would have been at horse races together a few months previous. that's what i said. saying something 'is effectively something' does not mean 'caused it to happen'. pointing out equivalence is not explaining etiology. you are a fucking moron. i just don't even know how to deal with someone that cannot comprehend basic english. too busy throwing your amazon non-fiction history knowledge at us to digest a simple sentence.
extra medium are you having trouble with the most basic english? i said the english and german establishments are so close that the world wars were 'effectively family fights at a dinner table'. all of our senior politicians, military officers, aristocrats, public figures etc. were closely enmeshed with 'high society' in weimar, france, greece, austro-hungary, etc. the war was basically a bunch of young men being sent to die by a class of people who would have been at horse races together a few months previous. that's what i said. saying something 'is effectively something' does not mean 'caused it to happen'. pointing out equivalence is not explaining etiology. you are a fucking moron. i just don't even know how to deal with someone that cannot comprehend basic english. too busy throwing your amazon non-fiction history knowledge at us to digest a simple sentence.
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It's not about muslims vs hindus, Kashmir is simply a fight over water rights. It could've been relatively easily fixed in arbitration and we'd have two less nuclear powers in the world.Uzique The Lesser wrote:
there is no way to partition kashmir to make india and pakistan happy. both india and pakistan benefitted hugely from the national organisation and development offered by the british empire. infrastructure that their old method of local government and in-fighting likely wouldn't have developed for decades and decades more. no imperial parent or ex-lover is going to be able to settle conclusively a muslims vs. hindu thing. that is older than the raj. talking about hypothetical other ways to settle kashmir is like talking about other ways iraq would have gone if you'd left saddam that way. let's not even gripe about your conflict resolution. as it stands right now you've got two large countries in a state of complete civil-war chaos. and you're helping to destabilise more.
extra medium are you having trouble with the most basic english? i said the english and german establishments are so close that the world wars were 'effectively family fights at a dinner table'. all of our senior politicians, military officers, aristocrats, public figures etc. were closely enmeshed with 'high society' in weimar, france, greece, austro-hungary, etc. the war was basically a bunch of young men being sent to die by a class of people who would have been at horse races together a few months previous. that's what i said. saying something 'is effectively something' does not mean 'caused it to happen'. pointing out equivalence is not explaining etiology. you are a fucking moron. i just don't even know how to deal with someone that cannot comprehend basic english. too busy throwing your amazon non-fiction history knowledge at us to digest a simple sentence.
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"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Since we're all shitting on the UK, I found this gem a little while back
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashtunistan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durand_Line
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashtunistan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durand_Line
Thanks, guys!!The Durand Line cuts through the Pashtun tribal areas and further south through the Balochistan region, politically dividing ethnic Pashtuns and Baloch who live on both sides of the border. It demarcates Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Balochistan and the Federally Administered Tribal Areas of western Pakistan from the eastern and southern provinces of Afghanistan. From a geopolitical and geostrategic perspective, it has been described as one of the most dangerous borders in the world
The imperialist U.K. is a crumbling empire who's citizens will soon devolve back into the mud farmers from whence they came. Soon, all that will remain will be a loose collection of independent countries who only acknowledge the U.K. by a picture of their old moldy queen on their money used to bring in tourists for a free handout.
Ohh wait...........that already happened. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Ohh wait...........that already happened. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
it's about water rights now. it wasn't then. it was ideological. bad anachronism. not exactly astute.Jay wrote:
It's not about muslims vs hindus, Kashmir is simply a fight over water rights. It could've been relatively easily fixed in arbitration and we'd have two less nuclear powers in the world.Uzique The Lesser wrote:
there is no way to partition kashmir to make india and pakistan happy. both india and pakistan benefitted hugely from the national organisation and development offered by the british empire. infrastructure that their old method of local government and in-fighting likely wouldn't have developed for decades and decades more. no imperial parent or ex-lover is going to be able to settle conclusively a muslims vs. hindu thing. that is older than the raj. talking about hypothetical other ways to settle kashmir is like talking about other ways iraq would have gone if you'd left saddam that way. let's not even gripe about your conflict resolution. as it stands right now you've got two large countries in a state of complete civil-war chaos. and you're helping to destabilise more.
extra medium are you having trouble with the most basic english? i said the english and german establishments are so close that the world wars were 'effectively family fights at a dinner table'. all of our senior politicians, military officers, aristocrats, public figures etc. were closely enmeshed with 'high society' in weimar, france, greece, austro-hungary, etc. the war was basically a bunch of young men being sent to die by a class of people who would have been at horse races together a few months previous. that's what i said. saying something 'is effectively something' does not mean 'caused it to happen'. pointing out equivalence is not explaining etiology. you are a fucking moron. i just don't even know how to deal with someone that cannot comprehend basic english. too busy throwing your amazon non-fiction history knowledge at us to digest a simple sentence.
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- globefish23
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The UK should really cut ties with the US already.
Get metric, build a tunnel to Ireland and come home!
Get metric, build a tunnel to Ireland and come home!
building a tunnel to irelands been mooted plenty of times. geologically, it would be a fucking nightmare
shame though, the ferries are a fucking racket!
shame though, the ferries are a fucking racket!
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
lol U madExtra Medium wrote:
The imperialist U.K. is a crumbling empire who's citizens will soon devolve back into the mud farmers from whence they came. Soon, all that will remain will be a loose collection of independent countries who only acknowledge the U.K. by a picture of their old moldy queen on their money used to bring in tourists for a free handout.
Ohh wait...........that already happened. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Nah, just trying to live vicariously through Zeek.FatherTed wrote:
lol U madExtra Medium wrote:
The imperialist U.K. is a crumbling empire who's citizens will soon devolve back into the mud farmers from whence they came. Soon, all that will remain will be a loose collection of independent countries who only acknowledge the U.K. by a picture of their old moldy queen on their money used to bring in tourists for a free handout.
Ohh wait...........that already happened. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
you couldn't afford to live my life vicariously. redneck.
I know, drugs and hipster clubs are expensive.
i like how you try to construe these things as insults (hint: they're not).
seeing as you drink cheap beer and fingerbang horrible creatures outside stripclubs, that evidently suggests the only reason you're not going to proper clubs and doing good drugs is because you're too poor. nobody ruts in that filth by choice. you're just jealous, basically.
seeing as you drink cheap beer and fingerbang horrible creatures outside stripclubs, that evidently suggests the only reason you're not going to proper clubs and doing good drugs is because you're too poor. nobody ruts in that filth by choice. you're just jealous, basically.
It was under a bridge, not a stripclub.Uzique The Lesser wrote:
i like how you try to construe these things as insults (hint: they're not).
seeing as you drink cheap beer and fingerbang horrible creatures outside stripclubs, that evidently suggests the only reason you're not going to proper clubs and doing good drugs is because you're too poor. nobody ruts in that filth by choice. you're just jealous, basically.
If you had the whole story it would sound so bad.
- globefish23
- sophisticated slacker
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It was a shit settlement back then, dispossessing the Palestinians and giving Europeans who were barely remote descendants of people who had no more valid claim on the region than anyone else a 'right' to immigrate to the region.Uzique The Lesser wrote:
the israel-palestine settlement suggested by the brits is 100x better than any current-day situ.
It was controversial at the time and the British regretted it pretty well immediately, not that any externally decided plan would have ever satisfied the Zionist crazies with their loony agenda, or obviously the Palestinians and their neighbours who had zero say in any of it.
Even now the Israelis don't even bother to pay lip service to the UN resolution which established Israel in Palestine.
Now there is still no plan which will satisfy the Israelis, unless the plan is to give them all of greater Israel and level everything outside it for about a 500 mile radius , and there's no plan which will satisfy the rest of the ME which includes the existence of Israel.
That America is bankrupting itself morally and financially supporting this doomed insanity is poetic in a way.
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Fuck Israel
At least they're not mud farmers now.Extra Medium wrote:
The imperialist U.K. is a crumbling empire who's citizens will soon devolve back into the mud farmers from whence they came.
Fuck Israel