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Dauntless
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I need a new PC, I've got a good idea of what I want but I thought I should post this in case someone sees something I've overlooked:

https://i.imgur.com/CyF8tSO.png

I'm keeping my current GPU for the time being so don't need one of those, also I'll be waiting a week or so for the i7 haswell to be released so the 3770k (and mobo) is really just a place-holder.

I'll be ordering from http://www.overclockers.co.uk/ (preferred) or http://www.ebuyer.com/

Any suggestions appreciated and you'll get a free karma just for posting

Last edited by Dauntless (2013-05-25 19:09:00)

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13/f/taiwan
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you're missing the logitech speakers.
Uzique The Lesser
Banned
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what do you need all that to play league of legends for?
Dauntless
super helpful
+2,207|5261|London

i hope you two clowns know that the free karma rule won't be applied to you

everyone else is welcome to comment and get a free karma

except one guy but he knows who he is

Last edited by Dauntless (2013-05-25 14:23:10)

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unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+1,764|5290|USA

There are a lot of hybrid drive options nowadays. I'd probably go with one of those instead of saddling myself with a 250GB primary.
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|4668|'straya
Is there any particular budget you're keeping within?

SDD + HDD is a good choice, however I would get the 840 pro, not just the regular 840 (530MB/s and 240MB/s + 3 year warranty vs 540MB/s and 520MB/s + 5 year warranty). I'd also avoid Toshiba HDDs as they can be a little funky, and the amount of failed Toshiba HDDs I've seen is a little ridiculous. I'd grab a 3TB Seagate Barracuda personally.

I'd also get 2x8GB RAM instead of 4x4GB, to leave upgrading open later down the track. yes you probably won't need to later, but you might as well leave yourself open to it.

The case choice seems a little odd to me. If you love the look of it etc then by all means go for it. But unless you are running multi-GPU and water cooling setup, there really isn't much need for a Full tower case that is that large. The price also seems a bit out of step with the rest of the build.

I'm not 100% sure with that PSU, you might want to check the cable length because a full tower case + a psu model with short cables may not be the best.

Feel free to take my advice, or tell me to fuck off.

Last edited by Little BaBy JESUS (2013-05-25 16:53:42)

Dauntless
super helpful
+2,207|5261|London

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Is there any particular budget you're keeping within?

SDD + HDD is a good choice, however I would get the 840 pro, not just the regular 840 (530MB/s and 240MB/s + 3 year warranty vs 540MB/s and 520MB/s + 5 year warranty). I'd also avoid Toshiba HDDs as they can be a little funky, and the amount of failed Toshiba HDDs I've seen is a little ridiculous. I'd grab a 3TB Seagate Barracuda personally.

I'd also get 2x8GB RAM instead of 4x4GB, to leave upgrading open later down the track. yes you probably won't need to later, but you might as well leave yourself open to it.

The case choice seems a little odd to me. If you love the look of it etc then by all means go for it. But unless you are running multi-GPU and water cooling setup, there really isn't much need for a Full tower case that is that large. The price also seems a bit out of step with the rest of the build.

I'm not 100% sure with that PSU, you might want to check the cable length because a full tower case + a psu model with short cables may not be the best.

Feel free to take my advice, or tell me to fuck off.
Thanks for the advice, no I don't really have a set budget in mind but as you can see aiming for a system to go with a 4770k

I think I will go for the 840 pro, so thanks for pointing that out. I feel like HDD brand reliability seems to be mostly pot luck, but for some reason I still prefer WD and I've had one fail on me so what's that about? Anyway I'll take your advice and go with Seagate as it's only £4 for the same spec.

I changed the memory from 2X8GB to 4X4GB just before I posted actually, and that was because I noticed the timings for the 8GB sticks were 10-10-10-28 and the 4GB sticks were 9-9-9-24 and it was about the same price so I went for the lower timings. I know that's not going to make a huge amount of difference but I probably won't upgrade to more than 16GB with this PC anyway.

As for the case, I'm really having trouble finding something I like. I just want something solid and plain, I like the look of this but a few reviewers have said the air flow wasn't great and it could get pretty hot, I'm going to overclock so I changed to something with more airflow, still not decided but I have until next week to make up my mind.

A friend with a similar setup recommended the PSU, but cable length isn't something I'd thought about so I'll make sure I check that.
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bugz
Fission Mailed
+3,309|4831

Here's another case suggestion if you're looking for plain
Uzique The Lesser
Banned
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someone talk some sense into this lad. he's a fashionista who has lost his way. one too many sessions on the tanning beds have done his nut in. £275 quid for a case! he's barmy. it's not a designer handbag, dauntless. no one is going to see it. take bugz' fuckin' advice. the better part of £300 spent on a metal aluminium shell for a £1k pc build is stupid. especially when you're not going to use that tower's space or spec. you are just buying it because you like its surface-appearance more than the others. that's a big premium man. compromise. it's going to be out of sight, unnoticed, for 95% of your pc's lifespan.
-Whiteroom-
Pineapplewhat
+572|5178|BC, Canada
different case for sure.  Who needs a full tower. V700 a CM 690 II or silverstone, maybe a fractal. Those A77s are as overkill as a antec 1200.
Mutantbear
Semi Constructive Criticism
+1,430|4484|London, England

Dauntless can u send me some money pleas
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Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|4668|'straya
Possibly something like the Corsair 550D?

https://i.imgur.com/QTekOfs.png

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … =CA-064-CS

Reasonably simple/plain exterior with a well designed interior for £140 less.

As for some low latency 2x8GB RAM, have a look at these.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … ubcat=1517

Looks a bit silly, but really good timings and good warranty.

Otherwise it seems the 1600Mhz 2x8GB patriot is 9-9-9-24, its the 1866Mhz 2x8GB that is 10-10-10-28

Last edited by Little BaBy JESUS (2013-05-26 01:33:20)

Dauntless
super helpful
+2,207|5261|London

bugz wrote:

Here's another case suggestion if you're looking for plain

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Possibly something like the Corsair 550D?

TODO: FIX GAL IMAGES

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … =CA-064-CS

Reasonably simple/plain exterior with a well designed interior for £140 less.
Thanks for the suggestions, they're both in the ballpark of what I'm after. Although, and I don't mean to sound too picky or ungrateful but I'm not a big fan of doors on cases. My current case has a door and I could do without it. Also I think I want something aluminium coloured.

I've been going round and round trying to decide if I should just spend a hundred or so extra and get something I really like or if I should just get over it and buy something cheaper.

Right now I've had a bit of a change of heart and decided on this which I don't really love but I guess it'll do.

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

As for some low latency 2x8GB RAM, have a look at these.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … ubcat=1517

Looks a bit silly, but really good timings and good warranty.

Otherwise it seems the 1600Mhz 2x8GB patriot is 9-9-9-24, its the 1866Mhz 2x8GB that is 10-10-10-28
Yeh that does look ridic but I won't be looking at it anyway eh.

Actually I meant to add the 1866Mhz memory, the 1600Mhz was added by mistake so my options were either 9-9-9-28 or 10-10-10-28

Though for the same price I could go for this which is 2133Mhz (and 11-11-11-27), but the trade-off in latency is probably worth it right?



Right now this is my revised build but I might change the case a few more times before ordering:

https://i.imgur.com/n3sLshI.png

the 840 pro looked like it was on overclockers yesterday but I can't find it now, so I changed the SSD to the sandisk extreme which has similar speeds

Last edited by Dauntless (2013-05-26 14:29:01)

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GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|4933|Finland

BeQuiet! PSU is bad quality. Get something else.

840 PRO is available at OCUK, get that one instead of Sandisk.

Get low profile ram, those high profiles will not fit with the CPU cooler. Something like Corsair Vengeance LP Series.

I would rather get WD Red Series HDD.

Seems like you want pretty plain looking case. Get a Fractal R4.

E: Memory frequency doesn't really matter after 1600MHz, don't sweat it. Especially don't bother with high CAS 10 latency ones.

I had 1866MHz sticks which did CAS 7 before but now I have 1600MHz CAS 9. I am telling you it doesn't really matter.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2013-05-26 14:42:46)

3930K | H100i | RIVF | 16GB DDR3 | GTX 480 | AX750 | 800D | 512GB SSD | 3TB HDD | Xonar DX | W8
unnamednewbie13
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+1,764|5290|USA

  • I would probably wait your week or so for the Haswells if you really want one, so you can do proper looking into balancing costs on the Z78 motherboards and the new CPU's.
  • For RAM, go with 2x8GB low profile (DDR3 1600 / PC3 12800) (CAS 7 or 8)  and be sure it appears on the motherboard mfg's up-to-date memory QVL (or you've otherwise had them confirm compatibility). If you need more than 16GB on that machine later, you can upgrade. Meanwhile, less can go wrong with two sticks than with four. Tall heat sinks on the RAM are ok as long as you do your measurements and make sure they'll fit with any bulky CPU cooler you decide to install.
  • For the chassis, Lian Li is great. There are other good options, but they're still one of my favorite. But take a look at their lineup for mid towers. Unless you're going to be doing some hefty air or water cooling, you aren't going to need full size, and a mid is still easy to work in. Check out the Lian Li PC-A05FNB for £70.
  • Please decide whether or not you really need absolute SSD for your primary drive. Hybrids are much cheaper than pure SSD's as far as price/GB is concerned.
  • You mentioned that you're keeping your current video card. Is your PC broken? Do you really need a new PC for what you're doing with it?
  • For PSU's, at the moment I would recommend one of the "mid-to-high-end" PC Power & Cooling models, like the PPCMK3S750 (if you can get a hold of it). Everyone's going to have their favorites, but this one is currently mine. Aesthetically, it shouldn't look out of place inside the Lian Li mentioned.
  • Put as much effort as you can to keeping all of your additional fans at close to the same RPM as possible if they aren't being micromanaged by your machine. This will cut down on some of the extra noise. Ultimately, [u]don't[/i] install any extra fans unless you're actually needing them. I don't know about you, but the droning hum can get on my nerves in a quiet room.
FFLink
There is.
+1,380|5210|Devon, England
I'd definitely recommend getting a good quality PSU - above what you have been told is already good.

I went for a nice Seasonic Modular recently after my Corsair died (after 3 years ish). Cost me £120, but at least you know you get your money's worth.
unnamednewbie13
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