How do you feel about a North American Union similar to the EU?

2013-01-18 18:18:09

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Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5832

How would you feel as Americans and Canadians about a NAU of Mexico, the U.S., and Canada similar or based off of the EU. The argument in favor is that the economies of all three nations would benefit from an this arrangement.

The U.S. is already the largest single economy in the world and has 90% of the GDP of the EU. Mexico has a manufacturing base larger than all of South America combined and quality of life is quickly coming in line with Americans. They are also posting 6% annual GDP growth. Canada has a ton of untapped resources that can be exploited.

The argument against is that each country will have to give up their sovergnity a little bit to get it all to work out. There is also the fear among Mexicans and Canadians that America will dominate both countries politically in the union. There is also a reluctance among many Americans to be in an arrangement that forces the U.S. to care about the economies and people of Mexico and Canada when we should, in their eyes, be moving towards a more individualistic society and economy.

So how would you feel about this.

2013-01-18 18:24:18

#2

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6744

nafta

2013-01-18 18:28:27

#3

pirana6: Go Cougs!; +691|6538|Washington St.

There is also the fear among Mexicans and Canadians that America will dominate both countries politically in the union

Isn't that already the case, regardless of the existence of a Union?

2013-01-18 18:33:14

#4

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5425|Sydney

Macbeth wrote:
There is also the well-founded fear among Mexicans and Canadians that America will dominate both countries politically in the union.

Fixed.

2013-01-18 18:35:01

#5

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6744

hey bugz, can you spot me $20?

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2013-01-18 19:12:55

#6

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7019|PNW

How do you feel about a North American Union similar to the EU?

If it would work, I'd be all for it. But I wonder, would it include Central America or the Caribbean?

2013-01-18 21:07:14

#7

ROGUEDD: BF2s. A Liberal Gang of Faggots.; +452|5636|Fuck this.

The Union of the Americas.

Eh, we're already a military empire, why not?

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2013-01-18 21:08:50

#8

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6963

naw that'd allow mexicans to freely work in the US without immigration restrictions.

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2013-01-18 21:41:04

#9

-CARNIFEX-[LOC]: Da Blooze; +111|6901

What goes on the front of an Amero?

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2013-01-18 21:46:23

#10

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6963

UK is in the EU but they don't use the Euro so...

2013-01-18 22:00:29

#11

ROGUEDD: BF2s. A Liberal Gang of Faggots.; +452|5636|Fuck this.

-CARNIFEX-[LOC] wrote:
What goes on the front of an Amero?

Hawaii

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2013-01-18 22:37:43

#12

-Whiteroom-: Pineapplewhat; +572|6906|BC, Canada

I figure americas toast in the next fifty years or so and gonna take us down with them, so why not.

2013-01-18 22:59:54

#13

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7019|PNW

-CARNIFEX-[LOC] wrote:
What goes on the front of an Amero?

I don't believe the AU would readily abandon established currencies like the US or Canadian dollar. But if they do, there are a ton of opportunities for artistic redesign. Landmarks, explorers, influential leaders, scientists...that sort of thing. I'd be more than happy to see the hoodoo designs on the American dollar go by the wayside.

2013-01-19 03:56:15

#14

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6353|eXtreme to the maX

They all use the USD for trade, what would change?

Fuck Israel

2013-03-29 13:38:25

#15

13/f/taiwan: Member; +940|5946

macbeth i remember you were looking for something about the 'free trade talks' obama mentioned in the SOTU address. i read on aljazeera that talks were going to start in june.

2013-03-30 06:02:47

#16

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6353|eXtreme to the maX

Sounds like a bum deal for Canadia

Fuck Israel

2013-03-30 08:36:41

#17

13/f/taiwan: Member; +940|5946

we should just go to war with canada and take all their natural resources.

who is going to do anything about it?

2013-03-30 08:44:12

#18

Shocking: sorry you feel that way; +333|6246|...

That also means free travel between all three countries and the US probably having to get (physically) involved in the mexican mafia wars. Ya I'd say it wouldn't go over very well.

I also don't see the point. There is no real incentive for you to join in a union, not like there is for the individual EU countries.

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2013-03-30 08:52:56

#19

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5605|London, England

“The [Canadian] Government proposes to implement a “bail-in” regime for systemically important banks. This regime will be designed to ensure that, in the unlikely event that a systemically important bank depletes its capital, the bank can be recapitalized and returned to viability through the very rapid conversion of certain bank liabilities into regulatory capital. This will reduce risks for taxpayers. The Government will consult stakeholders on how best to implement a bail-in regime in Canada. Implementation timelines will allow for a smooth transition for affected institutions, investors and other market participants. Systemically important banks will continue to be subject to existing risk management requirements, including enhanced supervision and recovery and resolution plans.
This risk management framework will limit the unfair advantage that could be gained by Canada’s systemically important banks through the mistaken belief by investors and other market participants that these institutions are ‘too big to fail’.”

http://www.budget.gc.ca/2013/doc/plan/b … 13-eng.pdf

No thanks.

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2013-03-30 09:39:36

#20

13/f/taiwan: Member; +940|5946

13/f/taiwan wrote:
macbeth i remember you were looking for something about the 'free trade talks' obama mentioned in the SOTU address. i read on aljazeera that talks were going to start in june.

here is that article: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/20 … 07639.html

2013-05-25 16:41:43

#21

13/f/taiwan: Member; +940|5946

13/f/taiwan wrote:
13/f/taiwan wrote:
macbeth i remember you were looking for something about the 'free trade talks' obama mentioned in the SOTU address. i read on aljazeera that talks were going to start in june.
here is that article: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/20 … 07639.html

obama will be visiting europe next month. this will be on his agenda. i'll provide you all with updates. does anyone see this happening?

2013-05-25 16:47:56

#22

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5832

I could see it happening. I don't see how the usual group of complainers can criticize free trade though it wouldn't surprise me if they start to scream about it taking American jobs or giving up our economy to the Euros or joining a sinking ship.

2013-05-26 05:38:41

#23

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6353|eXtreme to the maX

The free market is only OK if 'Libertarians' are benefiting from it.

Otherwise it suddenly becomes socialism.

Fuck Israel

2013-05-26 19:43:11

#24

RAIMIUS: You with the face!; +244|6961|US

Market wise, I don't think it's a terrible thing. The issue, to me, is how do you govern 3 nations, with different legal and philosophical histories? I don't think it would be a government that fit the people very well.

2013-05-26 19:51:58

#25

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5832

I said like the EU.

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