House runs on parliamentary rules. A simple majority is all you need there. Though redistricting is a massive problem.
The cuts are a joke. The administration is doing the same shit as the teachers unions 'if we don't get our school tax rate increase we will cut all after school programs' knowing all the athletes will cry to their parents. The world isn't going to end when they lop off $44BN off of next years budget. It's a drop in the bucket.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
The story isn't about the money. It is about congress sucking. The government still should be working to make deals to avoid automatic cuts. That was why I mentioned the parliament.
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Why? They want the cuts. They just don't want the blame. We need to make cuts, our debt is massive.Macbeth wrote:
The story isn't about the money. It is about congress sucking. The government still should be working to make deals to avoid automatic cuts. That was why I mentioned the parliament.
This was the only way they could do it. If they tried to go line by line through the budget they would end up pissing everyone off when their sacred cow hit the block. This way everyones sacred cow gets hit equally. It's completely inefficient and stupid this way, but that's the price for rule by committee (democracy).
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Clearly, the President wants the cuts, too. Otherwise, he would've taken the time to meet (or at least extend the invitation) with Congressional leaders this whole time.
He knows a decrease in the amount of increase in the budget won't have the hyperbolic impacts he keeps trotting out. He's just hoping the public isn't paying attention to the facts and wholly blames the Congressional republicans for everything (even though the impact will be minimal to non-existent), resulting in the dems taking the House in 2014.
He knows a decrease in the amount of increase in the budget won't have the hyperbolic impacts he keeps trotting out. He's just hoping the public isn't paying attention to the facts and wholly blames the Congressional republicans for everything (even though the impact will be minimal to non-existent), resulting in the dems taking the House in 2014.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
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― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
They still are. Most the idiots in Congress read and believe Krugman.Cybargs wrote:
i find it funny how the government was all like "HEY SPENDING IS GOOD FOR ECONOMY COZ KEYNES LOL" and now theyre like "OMG WE NEED TO RAISE TAX" so much for following their own economic ideology.
What can you expect from lawyers though? They aren't trained in most of the shit they pass laws on: the fatal flaw in the system.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
america's politics is basically a legal fraternity class, yep true.Jay wrote:
They still are. Most the idiots in Congress read and believe Krugman.Cybargs wrote:
i find it funny how the government was all like "HEY SPENDING IS GOOD FOR ECONOMY COZ KEYNES LOL" and now theyre like "OMG WE NEED TO RAISE TAX" so much for following their own economic ideology.
What can you expect from lawyers though? They aren't trained in most of the shit they pass laws on: the fatal flaw in the system.
although that's not necessarily an argument in favour of technocrats. many of the european states currently deep in shit had an elected technocrat class, rather than any sort of traditional 'political' class or 'lawyer elite'. italy actually was a more technocratic nation than many others in europe - and something like 15% of all of their officials had been convicted of some crime relating to fraud/embezzlement/bribery etc. having people expressly qualified for the job of ruling and wielding power doesn't necessarily make them any better at it.
I'm not a fan of technocrats either, as most of their beliefs are based on theory, or heavily influenced by political ideology. A trained economist can run an economy into the ground just as quickly as a lawyer can, and their arrogance is more likely to make them try.Uzique The Lesser wrote:
america's politics is basically a legal fraternity class, yep true.Jay wrote:
They still are. Most the idiots in Congress read and believe Krugman.Cybargs wrote:
i find it funny how the government was all like "HEY SPENDING IS GOOD FOR ECONOMY COZ KEYNES LOL" and now theyre like "OMG WE NEED TO RAISE TAX" so much for following their own economic ideology.
What can you expect from lawyers though? They aren't trained in most of the shit they pass laws on: the fatal flaw in the system.
although that's not necessarily an argument in favour of technocrats. many of the european states currently deep in shit had an elected technocrat class, rather than any sort of traditional 'political' class or 'lawyer elite'. italy actually was a more technocratic nation than many others in europe - and something like 15% of all of their officials had been convicted of some crime relating to fraud/embezzlement/bribery etc. having people expressly qualified for the job of ruling and wielding power doesn't necessarily make them any better at it.
It's why I believe in limited government. People get by just fine without ignorant arrogant people meddling in their affairs. Keep the law simple, the scope shallow.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Does anyone else think that 2 year term limits on Congressmen might be a little too short?
With ever lengthening election cycles, maybe. But thats not a good excuse to change thingsSpearhead wrote:
Does anyone else think that 2 year term limits on Congressmen might be a little too short?
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"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Since you are basically a war profiteer employed by the Pentagon, is your job at risk?FEOS wrote:
Clearly, the President wants the cuts, too. Otherwise, he would've taken the time to meet (or at least extend the invitation) with Congressional leaders this whole time.
He knows a decrease in the amount of increase in the budget won't have the hyperbolic impacts he keeps trotting out. He's just hoping the public isn't paying attention to the facts and wholly blames the Congressional republicans for everything (even though the impact will be minimal to non-existent), resulting in the dems taking the House in 2014.
*gasp*
are you talking about cutting defense? never! we need as many guns, idle soldiers, rockets, bombs and weaponry as we can get or the terrorist win! stop being a terrorist sympathizer macbeth.
are you talking about cutting defense? never! we need as many guns, idle soldiers, rockets, bombs and weaponry as we can get or the terrorist win! stop being a terrorist sympathizer macbeth.
my brother in law is getting furloughed (air traffic controller).
he said "Sweet, 3 day weekends!"
he said "Sweet, 3 day weekends!"
He wants the cuts more than anyone, pinning them on the GOP is a genius move.FEOS wrote:
Clearly, the President wants the cuts, too. Otherwise, he would've taken the time to meet (or at least extend the invitation) with Congressional leaders this whole time.
He knows a decrease in the amount of increase in the budget won't have the hyperbolic impacts he keeps trotting out. He's just hoping the public isn't paying attention to the facts and wholly blames the Congressional republicans for everything (even though the impact will be minimal to non-existent), resulting in the dems taking the House in 2014.
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It was amazing how quickly he turned his pet media attack dogs on Bob Woodward after he penned his story...Dilbert_X wrote:
He wants the cuts more than anyone, pinning them on the GOP is a genius move.FEOS wrote:
Clearly, the President wants the cuts, too. Otherwise, he would've taken the time to meet (or at least extend the invitation) with Congressional leaders this whole time.
He knows a decrease in the amount of increase in the budget won't have the hyperbolic impacts he keeps trotting out. He's just hoping the public isn't paying attention to the facts and wholly blames the Congressional republicans for everything (even though the impact will be minimal to non-existent), resulting in the dems taking the House in 2014.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
i wouldn't fuck with Woodward. ask nixon how that turned out . . .
He's like one of the good guys and stuff. Bad karma for Obama on this one.13urnzz wrote:
i wouldn't fuck with Woodward. ask nixon how that turned out . . .
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
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cool story dennis
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