Canin wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
If Sh1fty thinks he needs an AR15 and a 30rnd magazine for home defence he's more delusional than I thought.
Honestly, would it be a good thing to be loosing off dozens of rounds in a residential area?
My response was to you, not Sh1fty.
Why would you fire 30 rounds? Just because you have them? There have been cases, even recently, where 4 rounds or more did not stop a single assailant. I bet those people defending themselves and thier loved ones would have liked to have more than thier 6 round revolver at that point. Assailants that do home invasions are usually hopped up on drugs and dont respond to bullet wounds like a normal person would.
jesus... what is it with the pro-gun lobby piling layer upon layer of crazy stereotype and nightmare-fantasy on their 'home invasion' scenarios? first of all, we're told that a "large number" of home invasions are for the purpose of "expressly hurting, raping, or murdering a family member". now we're told that invaders are "USUALLY" hopped up on drugs? lol what the fuck? are they zombies, too? sure you don't want uranium rounds for that AR-15? a silver-tipped bullet, just so they stay down? garlic rubbed on your bedroom door-knob?
and what sort of drugs do you think people take that make their internal organs immune to massive trauma or puncture wounds? here's a little medical tip, straight from a hopped-up drug user: none. people on speed and various forms of tranq may not
feel pain, but a bullet to a vital is going to put them down, hard, whether or not they are consciously aware of the fact that their nerve-endings are screaming for mercy. if you kneecap an assailant,
he won't be able to walk, regardless of whether he is on drugs or drunk,
because he has no fucking kneecaps.
honestly, it would be so much easier to swallow some of the semi-rational points that (some of the more eloquent) pro-gun lobbyists put forward, if it wasn't always couched in this paranoiac, easily parodied far-right nutjob stance. i'm willing to go with you on the "to prevent against the tyranny of our government" line - it seems very alien and very whiffy to a louche-liberal european, but i'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, in the better interests of my liberal historical/cultural relativism - but when you start saying all this crap about hordes of jumped-up drug-users, like nazi zombies on hitler's amphets crawling back out of hell's trenches themselves, then i know you're talking more out of fear and dumb ignorance than you are talking of anything rationally. a south carolinian meth-head will drop if you shoot to incapacitate them. the meth isn't an invulnerability potion. you don't need a tommy gun with a drum mag, and seven molotov cocktails.
all-in-all this is why people frequently lump in the pro-gun lobby or the NRA with far-right nutjobism, and relegate it to a form of extremism or, even, domestic terrorism. it's because pro-gun lobbyists seem completely indoctrinated with this 'heightened state of fear' all the time, which is textbook neo-con homeland policy. the reds aren't under your bed, vagabond drug zombies aren't wandering the night, black men aren't coming to rape your wives... etc. put the .50 cal down.
Last edited by aynrandroolz (2013-01-19 06:41:29)
