13rin
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This Vet later dies due to heart complications as a result of being tased.  Bro worked for his friend. 

The "second shot" was a "finishing shot" (walked up to him and shot him in the eye at extreme close range).   

Meh'. 

A burglar is a burglar.


Dead burglars = \_/        regardless of the method.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
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THE UZI SLAYER
+79|4404|Oklahoma

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

its weird to me that it's legally ok for you to kill someone trying to rob you but then if said burglar is convicted and caught he isn't shot on sight.
"its weird to me that it's legally ok for you to kill someone trying to rob you"

So.....you saying it's weird that the courts (by your use of the word legally), find it ok for you to kill someone trying to rob you?  So if it's weird, than you obviously feel like someone shouldn't be able to do this?  Or you think courts SHOULD have a problem with it?

"but then if said burglar is convicted and caught (as if someone can be convicted before they are caught) he isn't shot on sight (would he be shot on sight before or after he was convicted before being caught?



I don't think the issue is with my comprehension of what you write, I think the problem is that you write like a 3rd grader high on glue.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,978|6840|949

Perhaps I do write poorly, but it doesn't take away from your inability to evaluate the statement as a whole instead of just the first part. If just the first part was something I couldn't wrap my head around I wouldn't include the second part. Simple stuff, really. Perhaps you could also read the post after my original one to see jay offer up some reasoning behind it. Then you can read my post after that where I said, "yeah, that's a good point."

Had you read further than my post you quoted originally, you'd probably get a little more clarity and it probably could have saved us this discussion.
Extra Medium
THE UZI SLAYER
+79|4404|Oklahoma

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

My shit doesn't stink. At all.
I guess I missed "Interpreting poorly written statements to 100% accuracy 101" class in school.

If I needed to I'm sure I could dig up a quote from the last 2 weeks were you were quite guilty of misinterpreting one of my "poorly written" statements.  I definitely think you and I need to find the axle on our revolving wheel of bullshit and come to some understanding.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,813|6314|eXtreme to the maX

Extra Meds wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

its weird to me that it's legally ok for you to kill someone trying to rob you but then if said burglar is convicted and caught he isn't shot on sight.
"its weird to me that it's legally ok for you to kill someone trying to rob you"

So.....you saying it's weird that the courts (by your use of the word legally), find it ok for you to kill someone trying to rob you?  So if it's weird, than you obviously feel like someone shouldn't be able to do this?  Or you think courts SHOULD have a problem with it?

"but then if said burglar is convicted and caught (as if someone can be convicted before they are caught) he isn't shot on sight (would he be shot on sight before or after he was convicted before being caught?.
Its reasonable to defend yourself against a mortal threat, or what reasonably appears to be a mortal threat.

Its not reasonable to drag wounded teenagers into your basement to murder at leisure.

Is that easy enough?
Fuck Israel
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THE UZI SLAYER
+79|4404|Oklahoma

Dilbert_X wrote:

Extra Meds wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

its weird to me that it's legally ok for you to kill someone trying to rob you but then if said burglar is convicted and caught he isn't shot on sight.
"its weird to me that it's legally ok for you to kill someone trying to rob you"

So.....you saying it's weird that the courts (by your use of the word legally), find it ok for you to kill someone trying to rob you?  So if it's weird, than you obviously feel like someone shouldn't be able to do this?  Or you think courts SHOULD have a problem with it?

"but then if said burglar is convicted and caught (as if someone can be convicted before they are caught) he isn't shot on sight (would he be shot on sight before or after he was convicted before being caught?.
Its reasonable to defend yourself against a mortal threat, or what reasonably appears to be a mortal threat.

Its not reasonable to drag wounded teenagers into your basement to murder at leisure.

Is that easy enough?
Are you some kind of moron?  You just took that out of context in just about every way possible and inserted an argument that happened a month after the comment.

I think you're just butt hurt about the other gun thread.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,813|6314|eXtreme to the maX
You're getting confused about the passage of time, that makes sense.
Fuck Israel
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THE UZI SLAYER
+79|4404|Oklahoma

Dilbert_X wrote:

You're getting confused about the passage of time, that makes sense.
I know your toilets flush backwards in Kangaroo land but I didn't realize your clocks did too.
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6890|Disaster Free Zone

Extra Medium wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

You're getting confused about the passage of time, that makes sense.
I know your toilets flush backwards in Kangaroo land but I didn't realize your clocks did too.
Our toilets flush correctly. Like most things Australia doesn't use outdated, inferior technology/terminology like you do in the US.
Extra Medium
THE UZI SLAYER
+79|4404|Oklahoma

DrunkFace wrote:

Extra Medium wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

You're getting confused about the passage of time, that makes sense.
I know your toilets flush backwards in Kangaroo land but I didn't realize your clocks did too.
Our toilets flush correctly. Like most things Australia doesn't use outdated, inferior technology/terminology like you do in the US.
Are you implying that my toilet is obsolete?  I'll have you know I shit in a Champion.  My waste is not merely flushed in a weird clockwise motion as yours, but rather, ejected from my domicile by a jet of water strong enough to cut through steel.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5566|London, England
Ban compound bows!
Gravely wounded by an arrow fired into his head, a Wyoming college instructor still managed to wrestle with his 25-year-old son who carried out the attack and give his students time to flee the classroom, say police who hailed the actions as heroic.
More grisly details of the horrific murder-suicide in Wyoming came to light Saturday, a day after the younger man killed his father's live-in girlfriend and then barged into his father's computer science class and shot him in the head with a high-powered bow and arrow.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/02/ma … z2DubaCu1x
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5794

If he had had a gun his fathers brains would have been on the wall. He used a less dangerous weapon than a gun to try to commit a murder and failed. I don't know how you can try to swing this one as an example of the evils of gun control.




Couldn't get a gun to kill someone so he had to use a bow? Bow didn't kill the target? Clearly gun control doesn't work. lol
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6890|Disaster Free Zone

Extra Medium wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

Extra Medium wrote:


I know your toilets flush backwards in Kangaroo land but I didn't realize your clocks did too.
Our toilets flush correctly. Like most things Australia doesn't use outdated, inferior technology/terminology like you do in the US.
Are you implying that my toilet is obsolete?
I'm not implying anything, I'm straight out saying that it is.

My waste is not merely flushed in a weird clockwise motion as yours
Ohh how clueless you really are.
west-phoenix-az
Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does
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http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/01/sport/foo … index.html

Last edited by west-phoenix-az (2012-12-03 10:26:14)

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RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|6923|US
Ah, yes, blame the plastic/metal object for people fighting...logic at it's finest.
There is also a fair amount of possible substitution of weapons in domestic situations.
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THE UZI SLAYER
+79|4404|Oklahoma
Eat a dick Bob Costas.


I hope Bob Costas breaks into my house.  I'd protect the shit out of myself.
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5794

Macbeth wrote:

A lot of gun owners want someone to break into their homes in order to legally shoot them.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5566|London, England
An AutoZone worker who stopped an armed robbery by retrieving a weapon from his truck said he was fired by the company for violating their gun policy.

Devin McClean and his store manager were about to close the AutoZone in York County, Va. when a gunman barged into the store.

“He pulled a gun from his waist band and demanded me and my manager go back into the office,” McClean told Fox News.

At some point, McClean was left in a restroom while the gunman made the manager open the store safe. That’s when McClean, a 23-year-old Air Force veteran, bolted through a side door and ran to his truck.

He returned through the front door holding a Glock 40 – pointed directly at the masked robber.

“I told him to freeze and to drop his weapon,” McClean told Fox News.

Instead, the robber took off – last seen running down the street from the store.

“I watched him run down the street,” he said. “I came back inside and made sure my manager was okay and he called the police.”
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/to … bbery.html

Apparently people are making a big deal about this. I actually agree with the corporate policy here. The odds of actually getting shot in an armed robbery are near zero unless you provoke the guy. He wants the money, not a murder charge. Risking peoples lives by escalating it over $2,000 is retarded. The company has insurance that will cover the loss of the money
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Narupug
Fodder Mostly
+150|5805|Vacationland

RAIMIUS wrote:

Ah, yes, blame the plastic/metal object for people fighting...logic at it's finest.
There is also a fair amount of possible substitution of weapons in domestic situations.
Name one weapon that is as deadly in a domestic dispute as some form of gun. 

The issue isn't that people are fighting, it's that when you throw a gun into the equation, you make the probability of death by one of the parties much higher.  All it takes is one little impulse and suddenly someone has done something that they really didn't want to do.

Last edited by Narupug (2012-12-04 11:12:20)

unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6980|PNW

Talking about gun control in front of a football backdrop with Silverado music coming on at the 1 minute mark.

WAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN

Screw that noise time to watch the movie.

RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|6923|US

Narupug wrote:

RAIMIUS wrote:

Ah, yes, blame the plastic/metal object for people fighting...logic at it's finest.
There is also a fair amount of possible substitution of weapons in domestic situations.
Name one weapon that is as deadly in a domestic dispute as some form of gun. 

The issue isn't that people are fighting, it's that when you throw a gun into the equation, you make the probability of death by one of the parties much higher.  All it takes is one little impulse and suddenly someone has done something that they really didn't want to do.
I disagree, the issue IS that people are fighting and trying to harm each other!
I won't deny that firearms are deadly.  However, grabbing a gun is about as easy as grabbing a knife from the block on your counter.
Narupug
Fodder Mostly
+150|5805|Vacationland

RAIMIUS wrote:

Narupug wrote:

RAIMIUS wrote:

Ah, yes, blame the plastic/metal object for people fighting...logic at it's finest.
There is also a fair amount of possible substitution of weapons in domestic situations.
Name one weapon that is as deadly in a domestic dispute as some form of gun. 

The issue isn't that people are fighting, it's that when you throw a gun into the equation, you make the probability of death by one of the parties much higher.  All it takes is one little impulse and suddenly someone has done something that they really didn't want to do.
I disagree, the issue IS that people are fighting and trying to harm each other!
I won't deny that firearms are deadly.  However, grabbing a gun is about as easy as grabbing a knife from the block on your counter.
Sure that's easy, but would you rather be shot, or stabbed?  Would you rather have someone come at you with a knife or fire a gun at you?  Sure it's easy to grab a knife from the kitchen, but the average person is going to have to come close to you to kill you with a knife, and even then they have to be relatively accurate.  A bullet can pierce a skull. Is the average kitchen knife sharp enough to pierce a skull?  It's also much easier to "accidentally" shoot someone than "accidentally" stab someone.
west-phoenix-az
Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does
+632|6598

Jay wrote:

Apparently people are making a big deal about this. I actually agree with the corporate policy here. The odds of actually getting shot in an armed robbery are near zero unless you provoke the guy. He wants the money, not a murder charge. Risking peoples lives by escalating it over $2,000 is retarded. The company has insurance that will cover the loss of the money
Unprovoked shootings during robberies.... near zero? Come on Jay. That shit happens and nobody should be forced to be defenseless against a piece of shit who is going to, at the least, threaten their life. I do believe the company has the right to make rules for their property and the man accepted those rules when he took employment there. I believe, like many establishments, that Autozone has this policy because it will cost them less. If a employee shoots someone, justified or not, the company faces lawsuit from the person shot or their family. It's cheaper to let their employees face death than risk having to pay out. Its all about money and their employees life isn't worth much to them.  When courts or juries starts awarding defenseless employees judgments because their employer disarmed them and failed to provide protection, these policies might change. Far too many people get settlements or judgments when they were in the wrong. These companies have to weigh the cost. Sadly the good guys lose.

These no tolerance policies are bullshit. Autozone made a bad call here. The man thought his friend and fellow coworker was possibly going to be killed. He made the right choice. In the end, everyone lived and he lost his job. He's lucky. The next guy who comes across that robber may not be.
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THE UZI SLAYER
+79|4404|Oklahoma

Jay wrote:

An AutoZone worker who stopped an armed robbery by retrieving a weapon from his truck said he was fired by the company for violating their gun policy.

Devin McClean and his store manager were about to close the AutoZone in York County, Va. when a gunman barged into the store.

“He pulled a gun from his waist band and demanded me and my manager go back into the office,” McClean told Fox News.

At some point, McClean was left in a restroom while the gunman made the manager open the store safe. That’s when McClean, a 23-year-old Air Force veteran, bolted through a side door and ran to his truck.

He returned through the front door holding a Glock 40 – pointed directly at the masked robber.

“I told him to freeze and to drop his weapon,” McClean told Fox News.

Instead, the robber took off – last seen running down the street from the store.

“I watched him run down the street,” he said. “I came back inside and made sure my manager was okay and he called the police.”
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/to … bbery.html

Apparently people are making a big deal about this. I actually agree with the corporate policy here. The odds of actually getting shot in an armed robbery are near zero unless you provoke the guy. He wants the money, not a murder charge. Risking peoples lives by escalating it over $2,000 is retarded. The company has insurance that will cover the loss of the money
Have you ever had a gun put in your face?  Obviously you haven't.  It isn't about what percentage of a chance you have of getting shot, it's more about another man having your life at his figure tips.  Do I want this piece of shit to make the decision alone whether I live or die, or do I want the chance to say NO, you do not have the right to make that decision, I have a say in this, I say I live and YOU die.

The entire gun law argument is mute.  Bad guys will have guns whether you have no laws or guns completely banned.  The only banning guns will do is take guns out of the hands of good people and give leverage to the bad.  Go hang out with Bob Costas hippy.
west-phoenix-az
Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does
+632|6598

Extra Medium wrote:

Go hang out with Bob Costas hippy.


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