then it isn't compulsory. the two are synonyms
lol so that karma was from you. I was just joking about the communism thing towards Ken, obviously a mixed economy is the best way to go. What economy in this world other than regions like Dubai have unbridled capitalism? From what I see in your arguments you seem to think it's black and white when it's not. Capitalism is great, I love having big companies like McDonalds or Wal-Mart put out affordable and quality products that i buy and grew up with, instead of having a grey business landscape with limited competition. But at the same time it spawns companies like these huge banks in this country that apparently are "too big to fail" and get millions of dollars in government bailouts.aynrandroolz wrote:
please be quiet, business major kid. people with real degrees are talking about adult topics. go back to revising elastic and inelastic theories of demand. the stuff that gets discussed in d&st doesn't have an 'answers' section at the back of the textbook.Roc18 wrote:
Enjoy your communism
p.s. there are many alternatives to capitalism which =/= communism.
p.p.s. enjoy puberty, when it finally hits
And majoring in Finance and Accounting + Being a history buff. I think I know quite a bit about economic systems.
Well technically you get a fine if you don't show up to the polling place, but you don't have to cast a vote.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
don't you get fined if you don't vote? Or is that whole mandatory (read: forced) voting thing not true?
It's pretty retarded.
I'm surprised there's not a presidential debate topic in D&ST tonight
did you watch the debates j
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What's there to talk about? They're two sides of the same coin. Vote shithead or douchebag 2012!_j5689_ wrote:
I'm surprised there's not a presidential debate topic in D&ST tonight
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
obama played not to lose.
the beautiful thing to see was rmoney's blatant FUCK YOU to the right wing, to be proud of romneycare, and abandon everything he's said in 6+ years of campaigning. he's totally rolling the dice that the extreme wing will not vote for obama, and finally is making his case to the 53%
the beautiful thing to see was rmoney's blatant FUCK YOU to the right wing, to be proud of romneycare, and abandon everything he's said in 6+ years of campaigning. he's totally rolling the dice that the extreme wing will not vote for obama, and finally is making his case to the 53%
You like romneybamacare?13urnzz wrote:
obama played not to lose.
the beautiful thing to see was rmoney's blatant FUCK YOU to the right wing, to be proud of romneycare, and abandon everything he's said in 6+ years of campaigning. he's totally rolling the dice that the extreme wing will not vote for obama, and finally is making his case to the 53%
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
whether i like it or not, the fact is Rmoney has stopped running from it, and finally owned it. he must have calculated that he has enough money in the bank that he can flip the bird to the teabaggers and extremists, some of which were his donors.Jay wrote:
You like romneybamacare?13urnzz wrote:
obama played not to lose.
the beautiful thing to see was rmoney's blatant FUCK YOU to the right wing, to be proud of romneycare, and abandon everything he's said in 6+ years of campaigning. he's totally rolling the dice that the extreme wing will not vote for obama, and finally is making his case to the 53%
Jay, you are about as subtle as a freight train and sharp as a bowling ball, aren't you?
Debate Romney has been my favourite Mitt Romney so far. Didn't win any points with his constant job creation comments given his plans to fire Big Bird.
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weren't you complaining that the tea party stopped being fiscally conservative? Now you're applauding him for taking the least fiscally conservative position possible?13urnzz wrote:
whether i like it or not, the fact is Rmoney has stopped running from it, and finally owned it. he must have calculated that he has enough money in the bank that he can flip the bird to the teabaggers and extremists, some of which were his donors.Jay wrote:
You like romneybamacare?13urnzz wrote:
obama played not to lose.
the beautiful thing to see was rmoney's blatant FUCK YOU to the right wing, to be proud of romneycare, and abandon everything he's said in 6+ years of campaigning. he's totally rolling the dice that the extreme wing will not vote for obama, and finally is making his case to the 53%
Jay, you are about as subtle as a freight train and sharp as a bowling ball, aren't you?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
ok, i will type really slow, try to follow along.Jay wrote:
weren't you complaining that the tea party stopped being fiscally conservative? Now you're applauding him for taking the least fiscally conservative position possible?13urnzz wrote:
whether i like it or not, the fact is Rmoney has stopped running from it, and finally owned it. he must have calculated that he has enough money in the bank that he can flip the bird to the teabaggers and extremists, some of which were his donors.Jay wrote:
You like romneybamacare?
Jay, you are about as subtle as a freight train and sharp as a bowling ball, aren't you?
i critiqued the debate.
i mentioned how rmoney's true middle of the road self was revealed, how he finally showed how centrist he is.
you asked some question that had nothing whatsoever to do about the debate.
i pointed out how Rmoney has calculated he has enough money to finish this race on his own, so he got off his knees, wiped off his chin, and in this debate finally even mentioned rmoneycare.
Then you said i was applauding rmoney (really?) and some blather about a hijacked, socially conservative movement that wasn't even mentioned in the debate.
i even included quotes, should you need to further review them.
that first paragraph sounds like something you got straight out of a textbook. for a start it's answering a point i never made. i said in my first post that 'just because it isn't capitalism, =/= communism'. you then give me a freshman essay paragraph about "you seem to think it's black and white". did you even read my post, or were you just trying to show off your community college finance major knowledge? lol.Roc18 wrote:
lol so that karma was from you. I was just joking about the communism thing towards Ken, obviously a mixed economy is the best way to go. What economy in this world other than regions like Dubai have unbridled capitalism? From what I see in your arguments you seem to think it's black and white when it's not. Capitalism is great, I love having big companies like McDonalds or Wal-Mart put out affordable and quality products that i buy and grew up with, instead of having a grey business landscape with limited competition. But at the same time it spawns companies like these huge banks in this country that apparently are "too big to fail" and get millions of dollars in government bailouts.aynrandroolz wrote:
please be quiet, business major kid. people with real degrees are talking about adult topics. go back to revising elastic and inelastic theories of demand. the stuff that gets discussed in d&st doesn't have an 'answers' section at the back of the textbook.Roc18 wrote:
Enjoy your communism
p.s. there are many alternatives to capitalism which =/= communism.
p.p.s. enjoy puberty, when it finally hits
And majoring in Finance and Accounting + Being a history buff. I think I know quite a bit about economic systems.
and yeah i'm sure you're a real history buff. i bet you know the intricacies of economics, too. why didn't you do econ or history, then? you know, proper subjects.
lolaynrandroolz wrote:
that first paragraph sounds like something you got straight out of a textbook. for a start it's answering a point i never made. i said in my first post that 'just because it isn't capitalism, =/= communism'. you then give me a freshman essay paragraph about "you seem to think it's black and white". did you even read my post, or were you just trying to show off your community college finance major knowledge? lol.Roc18 wrote:
lol so that karma was from you. I was just joking about the communism thing towards Ken, obviously a mixed economy is the best way to go. What economy in this world other than regions like Dubai have unbridled capitalism? From what I see in your arguments you seem to think it's black and white when it's not. Capitalism is great, I love having big companies like McDonalds or Wal-Mart put out affordable and quality products that i buy and grew up with, instead of having a grey business landscape with limited competition. But at the same time it spawns companies like these huge banks in this country that apparently are "too big to fail" and get millions of dollars in government bailouts.aynrandroolz wrote:
please be quiet, business major kid. people with real degrees are talking about adult topics. go back to revising elastic and inelastic theories of demand. the stuff that gets discussed in d&st doesn't have an 'answers' section at the back of the textbook.
p.s. there are many alternatives to capitalism which =/= communism.
p.p.s. enjoy puberty, when it finally hits
And majoring in Finance and Accounting + Being a history buff. I think I know quite a bit about economic systems.
and yeah i'm sure you're a real history buff. i bet you know the intricacies of economics, too. why didn't you do econ or history, then? you know, proper subjects.
>History Major
>Jobs
Pick one
I was replying to Ken specifically, not your post. And that's not something that comes from a textbook, thats my experience growing up under the American economy. It's not something that's one way or another, that's why i hate politics and pointless arguments on internet forums about it.
They care too much about freedom and not enough about responsibility._j5689_ wrote:
What's wrong with Libertarians?
Fuck Israel
most ceo's in the fortune 100 have humanities degrees. the fbi prefers philosophers to criminologists for problem solving and lateral thinking. yale/harvard law school prefers humanities graduates over mostly everything else.Roc18 wrote:
lolaynrandroolz wrote:
that first paragraph sounds like something you got straight out of a textbook. for a start it's answering a point i never made. i said in my first post that 'just because it isn't capitalism, =/= communism'. you then give me a freshman essay paragraph about "you seem to think it's black and white". did you even read my post, or were you just trying to show off your community college finance major knowledge? lol.Roc18 wrote:
lol so that karma was from you. I was just joking about the communism thing towards Ken, obviously a mixed economy is the best way to go. What economy in this world other than regions like Dubai have unbridled capitalism? From what I see in your arguments you seem to think it's black and white when it's not. Capitalism is great, I love having big companies like McDonalds or Wal-Mart put out affordable and quality products that i buy and grew up with, instead of having a grey business landscape with limited competition. But at the same time it spawns companies like these huge banks in this country that apparently are "too big to fail" and get millions of dollars in government bailouts.
And majoring in Finance and Accounting + Being a history buff. I think I know quite a bit about economic systems.
and yeah i'm sure you're a real history buff. i bet you know the intricacies of economics, too. why didn't you do econ or history, then? you know, proper subjects.
>History Major
>Jobs
Pick one
I was replying to Ken specifically, not your post. And that's not something that comes from a textbook, thats my experience growing up under the American economy. It's not something that's one way or another, that's why i hate politics and pointless arguments on internet forums about it.
"jobs". enjoy middle-management with your mickey mouse textbook degree.
Roc is black. He is not making it into middle management.
Do you have a source for this? What fortune 100? Global?Most CEOs in the fortune 100 have humanities degrees
Probably not true.
There is a table at the bottom
http://www.usnews.com/education/best-gr … -to-schoolThe 500 executives collectively earned about 465 college degrees, which means about 35 executives didn't graduate from college. Both Ralph Lauren and Sheldon Adelson (Las Vegas Sands Corp.) are among the CEOs who dropped out of college. But the Fortune 500 executives who completed both college and graduate school collectively earned about 200 M.B.A.'s and about 140 other graduate degrees.
There is a table at the bottom
that table doesn't provide any insight into BA vs. BS.
That wouldn't really tell you anything as many business degrees are listed as a BA
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
I didn't say it did? But I can understand why you would think I did. My bad.
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kotaku is a shit source but oh well
http://kotaku.com/5948987/maine-democra … f-warcraft
http://kotaku.com/5948987/maine-democra … f-warcraft
AUGUSTA – Colleen Lachowicz, the Democratic candidate for State Senate District 25 (Waterville), has been living a time-consuming double life as a member of the World of Warcraft community. World of Warcraft is an online gaming network where people play a fantasy role-playing game in an imaginary world called "Azeroth."
Today, Colleen is playing at level 85–the highest level one can attain. Studies have found that the average World of Warcraft gamer is 28 and spends 22.7 hours per week playing.
Her character in the game is called "Santiaga," an Orc Assassin Rogue, and Lachowicz lives vicariously through her, making comments about World of Warcraft and other topics on the liberal blog, The Daily Kos. Here is a sampling of Lachowicz's comments:
"So I'm a level 68 orc rogue girl. That means I stab things . . . a lot. Who would have thought that a peace-lovin', social worker and democrat would enjoy that?!"
"Yes, I am seriously slacking off at work today. And I called my congresswoman's office today. And told them I would probably be calling everyday."
"I spent my day leveling my alt - an undead warlock…"
"I'm lazy, remember?"
"Now if you'll excuse me, I may have to go and hunt down Grover Norquist and drown him in my bath tub."
"Or my dream from election season last year where John McCain sat at my childhood dining room table and I reamed him a new a**hole about Sarah Palin."
"I like to stab things and I'm originally from NJ…. what's your f***ing point?!"
"Do not send me a campaign contribution or I will have to stab you! Seriously!"
"Yes, join us! We're progressive… in fact we joke about being a socialist guild."
"I love this diary because it sums up the teabagger mindset."
"These are some very bizarre and offensive comments, and they certainly raise questions about Lachowicz's maturity and her ability to make serious decisions for the people of Senate District 25," said Maine Republican Party spokesman David Sorensen.
the vast majority of business/finance-related subjects are BSc's. they slip in under the pseudo-science umbrella with many other spuriously 'scientific' subjects, such as sociology. it's because of the high-school level math and statistics; it becomes a 'science'. not really much arts/abstraction/big thinking analysis. i'd say 80% of business type subjects are awarded as BSc's. even total bullshit like marketing tries to lend itself 'credibility' in the academy by attempting to pass as 'scientific' study, i.e. involving the scientific method or empirical observation in the loosest possible definition of the term.That wouldn't really tell you anything as many business degrees are listed as a BA
it's well known that top graduate-level law schools prefer people with the critical thinking and rhetorical skill and articulation of humanities degrees. undergraduate law courses are seen as a cash-cow, and there's much public moaning in the press (normally from law grads) about how the classics, history, englit, philosophy etc. graduates will swan in on fast-track graduate programmes and take the jobs (even on a basic functional level of grasping the legalese writing/jargon, and latinate terms... humanities grads have these fundamental skills of the profession on lock). i can't speak for mba's as i haven't read anything on the subject, but the mba doesn't strike as a particular gauntlet of merit, anyway. it's a career advancement accessory badge. not really the same intellectual lifting involved as with a juris doctor. business schools over here don't really have entry standards. it's just if you're willing to cough up the money.
it's also well known that humanities degrees and 'enjoy having no job' is a complete fallacy. recent articles i can remember reading myself are things like:
http://www.allaboutcareers.com/features … ies-degree
http://www.guardian.co.uk/higher-educat … -graduates
the whole 'humanities students serve fries' thing is a back-slapping comfort joke told by insecure business majors to one another. humanities and science students on the whole don't trouble themselves much with this question-- only people concerned with getting a degree 'so i can get a good job'. i.e. people not really interested in education at all. the vast majority of leaders, people in public service (judges, politicians, the press, etc.) have humanities degrees. in the uk and us humanities/liberal arts are largely the preserve of a cultural elite. the schools that specialise and have particular strength in humanities/liberal arts are typically the most selective schools in the nation (and the most expensive). why are business majors really telling themselves that a humanities student is never going to get a job? you're telling me mr. roc with his 'finance and accounting' textbook piece-of-paper/degree is set-up better for life than a philosophy major from amherst, or a liberal arts grad from oberlin or wesleyan? please.
again this is the age-old argument and self-congratulatory routine spread by the most insecure of science students (thankfully a minority), and most business/'real world subject' mongs. it doesn't have any reality to it. kids that have to study bar-graphs for 4 years and discuss marketing just like to comfort themselves with the illusion that humanities majors doing intellectually nourishing studies will be forever 'serving my kids fries'. ok. sure. this is mostly the boring rhetoric of the earlier-mentioned vein of anti-intellectualism that runs through american life. humanities is all thinking and all intellection, therefore people doing finance like to tell themselves it's 'pointless' and 'a waste'. lol. what they don't realise is that business and these new bullshit textbook subjects have only arrived in the universities about 50 years ago. you are there to make the universities more money t hrough tuition, and nothing more. they regard you as a joke. but ya, the humanities department that has been there for 300 years is a 'waste', and your mouth-breathing powerpoint course is the 'godmode'.
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