Macbeth
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*unaccompanied  children
Facing a storm of criticism, Virgin Australia airline says it will review a controversial policy of not allowing men to sit next to unaccompanied children on flights.

Criticism of the long-standing policy grew after Sydney fireman Johnny McGirr was asked to change seats after being seated next two unaccompanied boys, reports the Brisbane Times. McGirr, 33, says a flight attendant asked him to move after she spotted McGirr sitting next to the two boys he approximated to be between eight and 10 in age.

When asked why, McGirr was told, "Well you can't sit next to two unaccompanied minors." The flight attendant reportedly then asked a fellow female passenger to sit next to the unaccompanied minors.

Virgin Australia said it understands the concerns raised about the policy - which had been in place for some time and is based on customer feedback, reports the Huffington Post, adding: 'In light of recent feedback, we’re now reviewing this policy.'

Other airlines, such as Quantas, Jetstar and Air New Zealand have a similar policy.

"[The attitude of the airline] is 'we respect you but as soon as you board a Virgin airline you are a potential pedophile,' and that strips away all the good that any male does regardless of his standing in society, his profession or his moral attitudes," McGirr said, who wrote about his experiences in a blog post.
So is the practice unfair to men or is it okay?

As long as the man's seating class isn't changed or changed for the better, I see nothing wrong. I think this policy is okay and protects both the children and the man. The children from the statisticly more likely to mess with a child men. The men from any "misunderstanding" and accusations.

I would not be insulted at all if asked to move. Really doesn't feel like a violation of my FREEDOMS
Jay
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Completely fucking absurd.
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FEOS
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I would mind being considered a potential pedophile absent any behavior on my part to drive it.

I would be greatly insulted. I would move, so as not to disturb the other passengers or upset the kids seeing a couple of adults arguing. Then I would light up the airline like nobody's business after we landed.
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Jay wrote:

Completely fucking absurd.
True but the bottom line, as an adult male..  You will never get stuck sitting next to an unattended child on a flight. Sounds good to me.
Jay
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+2,006|5597|London, England

El Beardo wrote:

Jay wrote:

Completely fucking absurd.
True but the bottom line, as an adult male..  You will never get stuck sitting next to an unattended child on a flight. Sounds good to me.
Doesn't make it right to view every adult male as a potential pedophile. I happen to like kids but I've been forced to feel weird just saying hi or smiling at a kid that I see on the street. Fuck that shit.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Ilocano
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If you've sat with kids on planes, you'd want to move seats.   But personally, I would expect to be upgraded as minimum compensation.
KEN-JENNINGS
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The preference should go to whoever booked the flight first. Not that hard to add a filter/ variable setting to the seat selection. Why not move the kid?
Ilocano
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I don''t ever recall signifying my gender when booking tickets and picking seats.  Probably not a minor "adjustment" to the system.
Jay
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Seriously, none of you are offended by being automatically classified a pedophile just because you have a dick?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Ilocano
buuuurrrrrrppppp.......
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Jay wrote:

Seriously, none of you are offended by being automatically classified a pedophile just because you have a dick?
That's already assumed in our First World society.  Not just in flights.
Macbeth
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Jay wrote:

Seriously, none of you are offended by being automatically classified a pedophile just because you have a dick?
Nope. It is not a judgment on you as a person. It is a judgment on men in general. The way society is set up privileges men over women. All things considered this is a small price to pay in order to be a man.



I still don't see how my FREEDOMS are being trounced on by being moved a row.
Macbeth
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Ilocano wrote:

Jay wrote:

Seriously, none of you are offended by being automatically classified a pedophile just because you have a dick?
That's already assumed in our First World society.  Not just in flights.
Third world societies have this all figured out
Jay
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Macbeth wrote:

Jay wrote:

Seriously, none of you are offended by being automatically classified a pedophile just because you have a dick?
Nope. It is not a judgment on you as a person. It is a judgment on men in general. The way society is set up privileges men over women. All things considered this is a small price to pay in order to be a man.



I still don't see how my FREEDOMS are being trounced on by being moved a row.
Society privileges men over women? And this is your way of giving back? Holy fuck, move to Brooklyn already.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Macbeth
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Yes, life is easier for men than it is for women. A minor inconvenience like being moved a seat is a small price to pay for a lifetime of privilege.


Still am not feeling trounced on.

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Jay
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"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Macbeth
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Widely accepted social observation is a hipster fad? lol

What school did you go to again, scholar?
Ilocano
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Good or bad, pedophiles don't make the news in most Third World countries.

I could be in some Third World country, go to a park, and hand out candy to all the kids, even getting a few hugs and tons of smiles, with no parent thinking pedo.

Try that same scenario in some park here.
Jay
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Widely accepted social observation? Sure, if you're a lefty liberal arts major. Did you recently take a feminism class? Christ, you become a bigger mong with every semester you waste at The State University of New Jersey.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Macbeth
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Men having societal privilege over women isn't just some "left liberal arts" theory. It is a quantifiable social phenomenon.





Jesus christ. The guy who went to shit naval college rejects the concept of male privilege and also blames black people for being poor. You are such an uneducated retard. Please, impress me with your Hegel knowledge and acute understanding of political philosophy and theory, G@lt.

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unnamednewbie13
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inb4 they escort father away from own children
KEN-JENNINGS
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Ilocano wrote:

I don''t ever recall signifying my gender when booking tickets and picking seats.  Probably not a minor "adjustment" to the system.
I know for a fact Virgin America requires you to put your gender
Jay
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Macbeth wrote:

Jay wrote:

Please describe this societal privilege to me. What advantage do I have over women?

Everything comes back to the fact that women feel more obligated to raise children than men do. It accounts for differences in pay, heights reached in careers, and pretty much everything else feminists bitch about. I'm really sorry that they were born with a pair of tits rather than a penis. I'm really sorry for that. I'll pay penance on the altar of vagina.
Do I really have to post the employment, pay, career advancement and other stats that show women get a shorter end of the stick?
Go ahead.
Forget equality for women, the fairer sex is on pace to outrun men when it comes to making money.

In remarkable shift from even a decade ago, the majority of working wives will out-earn their husbands in the next generation, according to Time magazine's cover story this week.

it's not just married women who are breadwinning. In the majority of U.S. metro areas, single women with no children in their 20s outearned their male peers, according to Time's story. In Dallas, for example, a 20-something woman makes $1.18 to a man's $1.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/2 … 68328.html

More women college graduates, more women in the workforce. Everything you read in your feminism class is decades out of date. Congratulations on your wasted time.

Even prior to the past decade, women who did not have kids made more money on average than men without kids. Kids are what have historically kept women down. Why? I'll explain it because you're obviously a child that has no concept of what it means to be an adult... Someone has to care for the kids. Women are more likely to take months off from work to have kids, are more likely to leave the workforce for extended periods of time to raise kids, are more likely to take a part time job in order to have more time to spend with their kids, and because they spend so much time outside of their career, they fall behind. Because they fall behind, they make lower wages and don't rise as far. Don't want to get penalized in your career? Don't have kids, or switch roles with your husband.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
HITNRUNXX
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Macbeth wrote:

So is the practice unfair to men or is it okay?

As long as the man's seating class isn't changed or changed for the better, I see nothing wrong. I think this policy is okay and protects both the children and the man. The children from the statisticly more likely to mess with a child men. The men from any "misunderstanding" and accusations.

I would not be insulted at all if asked to move. Really doesn't feel like a violation of my FREEDOMS
Really? So sexism is ok and there are no rights to protect against discrimination by sex?

I bet if an airline said [using your freakish working here] "The women from the statisticly more likely to mess with a woman black."  Which, I think translates to: "Statistically, black men raped more women than other races last year, so black men are no longer allowed to sit next to unaccompanied women." Then there wouldn't be a single debate and everyone would come out of the woodwork talking about every violation of FREEDOMS possible.

How about:

Muslims are no longer allowed to sit in the front near the cockpit.

Homosexuals are no longer allowed to sit in the same section as straights.

Mexicans are no longer allowed to sit next to non Spanish speaking people.

etc etc etc

But no, this is against men, so that makes it ok.
ROGUEDD
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

inb4 they escort father away from own children
Inb4 they move a normal male and put a pedophile female in his place.

Also, where are the kids' parents?
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