Jay
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Macbeth wrote:

Jay abused a government program designed for the poor.
Ahh, more trolls. Is everyone left on this forum a troll? Christ.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
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Only towards you.
Jay
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Son, life trolled you
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Macbeth
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At least I never had to take a government handout. So I guess I did okay there.
AussieReaper
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Jay wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

welfare is a transfer payment. might as well call every government employee a welfare queen using that shitty logic of taxpayer money = welfare.
Why would you even respond to him? He spends all day stealing from his employers (that pay him minimum wage), fucking around on reddit, and stealing every piece of Intellectual Property that he can get his hands on. You think he cares where tax money goes? Fuck no, because he undoubtedly pays none. Just ignore the little troll and let him be a badass from behind his keyboard. Lord knows he wouldn't share that opinion in public.
lol minimum wage. If course I care where tax money goes. And going towards the military is a waste.

Unless you think the amount of money spent in Iraq and Afghanistan wouldn't have been better spent in the US you have nfi.
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Jay
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AussieReaper wrote:

Jay wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:


welfare is a transfer payment. might as well call every government employee a welfare queen using that shitty logic of taxpayer money = welfare.
Why would you even respond to him? He spends all day stealing from his employers (that pay him minimum wage), fucking around on reddit, and stealing every piece of Intellectual Property that he can get his hands on. You think he cares where tax money goes? Fuck no, because he undoubtedly pays none. Just ignore the little troll and let him be a badass from behind his keyboard. Lord knows he wouldn't share that opinion in public.
lol minimum wage. If course I care where tax money goes. And going towards the military is a waste.

Unless you think the amount of money spent in Iraq and Afghanistan wouldn't have been better spent in the US you have nfi.
I don't disagree that the wars were a waste, Iraq at least, but that doesn't mean I think that all money spent on the military is wasted. You posted just about the most offensive picture you could and probably didn't think anything of it. If anyone's a useless faggot leach, it's you.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Macbeth
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Having your girlfriend take care of you while you go to school on a government program designed for poor people is pretty leechy
AussieReaper
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Jay wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

Jay wrote:


Why would you even respond to him? He spends all day stealing from his employers (that pay him minimum wage), fucking around on reddit, and stealing every piece of Intellectual Property that he can get his hands on. You think he cares where tax money goes? Fuck no, because he undoubtedly pays none. Just ignore the little troll and let him be a badass from behind his keyboard. Lord knows he wouldn't share that opinion in public.
lol minimum wage. If course I care where tax money goes. And going towards the military is a waste.

Unless you think the amount of money spent in Iraq and Afghanistan wouldn't have been better spent in the US you have nfi.
I don't disagree that the wars were a waste, Iraq at least, but that doesn't mean I think that all money spent on the military is wasted. You posted just about the most offensive picture you could and probably didn't think anything of it. If anyone's a useless faggot leach, it's you.
Coming from mr leech himself? I lol

You're quite different from the Ayn Rand protagonist you do cherish, you know that right?

Did you enjoy getting all that tax payer money while doing nothing in return for it?
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
Uzique
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Jay wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

Jay wrote:


Why would you even respond to him? He spends all day stealing from his employers (that pay him minimum wage), fucking around on reddit, and stealing every piece of Intellectual Property that he can get his hands on. You think he cares where tax money goes? Fuck no, because he undoubtedly pays none. Just ignore the little troll and let him be a badass from behind his keyboard. Lord knows he wouldn't share that opinion in public.
lol minimum wage. If course I care where tax money goes. And going towards the military is a waste.

Unless you think the amount of money spent in Iraq and Afghanistan wouldn't have been better spent in the US you have nfi.
I don't disagree that the wars were a waste, Iraq at least, but that doesn't mean I think that all money spent on the military is wasted. You posted just about the most offensive picture you could and probably didn't think anything of it. If anyone's a useless faggot leach, it's you.
how is he a leech? he's privately employed and pays his taxes. what's he leeching from?

i agree with the sentiment of that poster. most of the people that join the standard army/navy here in the uk are professional wastoids that only do so because no other career path will ever be open to them. it's a choice between doing menial oddjobs for minimum wage your whole life or being employed by the taxpayer in the military. it's a no brainer. you were one of those poor kids too, right? you can't be serious and say most army sign-ups are noble young men that want to go and fight the good fight. for most people it's a way out of the ghetto, on the middle-class taxpayer's dime.
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Jay
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+2,006|5358|London, England

AussieReaper wrote:

Jay wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:


lol minimum wage. If course I care where tax money goes. And going towards the military is a waste.

Unless you think the amount of money spent in Iraq and Afghanistan wouldn't have been better spent in the US you have nfi.
I don't disagree that the wars were a waste, Iraq at least, but that doesn't mean I think that all money spent on the military is wasted. You posted just about the most offensive picture you could and probably didn't think anything of it. If anyone's a useless faggot leach, it's you.
Coming from mr leech himself? I lol

You're quite different from the Ayn Rand protagonist you do cherish, you know that right?

Did you enjoy getting all that tax payer money while doing nothing in return for it?
Nothing in return for it? Well shit. Give me back my four and a half years then. I wasn't working at least 10 hours a day, every day, or anything.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Uzique
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i think military service is over-rated. you guys act like we owe you a life of luxury and benefits because you went and fought in some war none of the general public gave a fuck about. well excuse me, pvt. galt, we don't owe you anything. you went of your own volition. you chose that career path and job. you weren't forced to do it at gunpoint. now you expect a free-ride because you worked full-time for 4 years for the government. lol. the hypocrisy is delicious.
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Macbeth
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Macbeth wrote:

Having your girlfriend take care of you while you go to school on a government program designed for poor people is pretty leechy
I wish I had a girl to take care of me while I get $6000 a year for doing nothing.
Uzique
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how does jay even keep a straight face in here, knowing he's a direct living contradiction of all the views he espouses? that must be one terribly conflicted psyche.

Last edited by Uzique (2012-04-17 19:49:02)

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Jay
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Uzique wrote:

i think military service is over-rated. you guys act like we owe you a life of luxury and benefits because you went and fought in some war none of the general public gave a fuck about. well excuse me, pvt. galt, we don't owe you anything. you went of your own volition. you chose that career path and job. you weren't forced to do it at gunpoint. now you expect a free-ride because you worked full-time for 4 years for the government. lol. the hypocrisy is delicious.
I never said I was owed anything by anyone. I got paid for the job I performed. I don't march in parades or beg free drinks off of strangers in bars with my tales of military service.

As for a free ride, what free ride? Part of the terms of my enlistment was money for college. It was nothing more than deferred payment for services rendered whilst off doing whatever the politicians in Washington decided was important at the time. I traded four and a half years of servitude for a four year college degree plus the pittance they paid me while I was on active duty. It's no different from an employer offering to pay for someones grad school in return for service.

But yeah, I'm a total leech on the system.

(everyone keep trolling though, it's a good time)
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Uzique
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Jay wrote:

Uzique wrote:

i think military service is over-rated. you guys act like we owe you a life of luxury and benefits because you went and fought in some war none of the general public gave a fuck about. well excuse me, pvt. galt, we don't owe you anything. you went of your own volition. you chose that career path and job. you weren't forced to do it at gunpoint. now you expect a free-ride because you worked full-time for 4 years for the government. lol. the hypocrisy is delicious.
I never said I was owed anything by anyone. I got paid for the job I performed. I don't march in parades or beg free drinks off of strangers in bars with my tales of military service.

As for a free ride, what free ride? Part of the terms of my enlistment was money for college. It was nothing more than deferred payment for services rendered whilst off doing whatever the politicians in Washington decided was important at the time. I traded four and a half years of servitude for a four year college degree plus the pittance they paid me while I was on active duty. It's no different from an employer offering to pay for someones grad school in return for service.

But yeah, I'm a total leech on the system.

(everyone keep trolling though, it's a good time)
except an employer who pays for someone's grad school gets their money from the business-itself, privately. and you were relying on public taxpayer money to fund your college education. which kinda contradicts your whole anti- big-government stance, and rand-objectivist fanboyism.
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Jay
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Yeah, because no one ever has an epiphany that leads them to follow a certain philosophy later in life. Whatever chilluns, off to bed. Enjoy patting each other on the back over TS for another hard fought forum victory.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Uzique
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over ts? are you delusional? you think we are all colluding to smell your obvious bullshit? there's no conspiracy here. just a bunch of individuals that have realised your attitudes and ideology are a sham.
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specops10-4
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Joining the military is a pretty selfless/desperate act.  I mean they get paid terribly to go to some country where everyone hates them while hoping they come back home alive.  Deserves more respect than most other jobs in my opinion.
Uzique
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Jay wrote:

Yeah, because no one ever has an epiphany that leads them to follow a certain philosophy later in life. Whatever chilluns, off to bed. Enjoy patting each other on the back over TS for another hard fought forum victory.
and so you'd deny a younger generation the socialist handouts and welfare you've had, now that you have taken full advantage of them? you'll now sponsor and thumbs-up rand's philosophy, one decade safely-on from the point in your life when you were the object of her hatred? that smacks of hypocrisy and opportunism to me. what a fraud.
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Uzique
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specops10-4 wrote:

Joining the military is a pretty selfless/desperate act.  I mean they get paid terribly to go to some country where everyone hates them while hoping they come back home alive.  Deserves more respect than most other jobs in my opinion.
why? there's no real reason or need to be in that country. they put themselves in that shit position. do you give a drug addict respect as well because he is dealing with a tough life? no. because he chose to take drugs. therefore why should you respect a soldier, who walked into a recruitment station and signed a contract to go to a shithole for taxpayer's money? fuck respect for grunts.
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specops10-4
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Uzique wrote:

specops10-4 wrote:

Joining the military is a pretty selfless/desperate act.  I mean they get paid terribly to go to some country where everyone hates them while hoping they come back home alive.  Deserves more respect than most other jobs in my opinion.
why? there's no real reason or need to be in that country. they put themselves in that shit position. do you give a drug addict respect as well because he is dealing with a tough life? no. because he chose to take drugs. therefore why should you respect a soldier, who walked into a recruitment station and signed a contract to go to a shithole for taxpayer's money? fuck respect for grunts.
Wow, just wow.  Do you feel the same about police officers, firefighters, janitors, sewer cleaners, McDonald's employees, etc.?  I don't even know how to respond to this, I hope you are trolling.

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Uzique
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all those other examples provide a tangible benefit to the society from which they derive. half of them aren't paid for with taxpayer's money. so really i think your argument is extremely weak. also janitors and mcd's employees won't be on a forum begging respect or some sort of untouchable-status because of their job. nor will they expect the taxpayer to pay for their college education because they did 3 years' of shitty work behind a burger counter.

look, the salient fact is, here, that most of the people entering the standard army/navy here in the UK are school dropouts. people with no other future or direction in life. people that join the army because they fucked around in school and couldn't get good enough qualifications to compete in the real-world marketplace. so what do they do? they join an easy career that offers all of the discipline, shelter, food and general amenities for them. all at the taxpayer - who did well in school and got a normal job - 's expense. that's obscene to me. i don't respect them. fuck them.

Last edited by Uzique (2012-04-17 20:10:19)

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specops10-4
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Uzique wrote:

all those other examples provide a tangible benefit to the society from which they derive. half of them aren't paid for with taxpayer's money. so really i think your argument is extremely weak.
The military provides no tangible benefit to society?  Why has every nation since the beginning of civilization had at least some military if they provide no benefit?

Also it doesn't matter if they are paid for with taxpayer money, they are putting themselves into shitty situations just for a little bit of money, just like a drug addict right?

Last edited by specops10-4 (2012-04-17 20:11:09)

Uzique
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nations had militaries for defense and (imperial) offense. i would like to think we don't really have much of a homeland-defense threat anymore. therefore we keep a military for neo-imperial conquests abroad. i don't support this. therefore i do not support the troops. if hussein was going to invade the UK or some other european country tomorrow, maybe i'd give a shit. but i don't. so sorry mr. knuckle-dragger with 0 qualifications and no future, i won't give you a salute for signing up for an easy career.
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specops10-4
Member
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Uzique wrote:

nations had militaries for defense and (imperial) offense. i would like to think we don't really have much of a homeland-defense threat anymore. therefore we keep a military for neo-imperial conquests abroad. i don't support this. therefore i do not support the troops. if hussein was going to invade the UK or some other european country tomorrow, maybe i'd give a shit. but i don't. so sorry mr. knuckle-dragger with 0 qualifications and no future, i won't give you a salute for signing up for an easy career.
Support the fact that the military is a way to bring people who screwed up in highschool by giving them a job and a chance at growing up.  Its better than just handing money out to people because they don't have the qualifications to get any other job.  They are people with no future that put themselves into deadly situations, sounds like a fucking blast.  They deserve to be hated.

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