I'm not thinking this really makes a huge difference. A PR nightmare to be sure (after we criticize Afghans for not properly vetting their recruits), but not that significant of a turning point war-wise.AussieReaper wrote:
This guy is certainty helping their cause.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Fixed.US Soldier singlehandedly kills 16 civilians, Taliban is pissed that they were beaten to it.
They're not pissed, they're elated. He is the poster boy for their latest recruiting drive.
i wouldn't be too sure, even the republican candidates are now saying we need to leave trashcanistan.
Good article HITNRUNXX!
I can't speak for myself as I've never been deployed, let alone serve, but I imagine that it's based on the individual and not what is going on. Thousands have been diagnosed with PTSD and other disorders but hundreds of thousands haven't. He snapped after 4 tours of duty, but there are men who have served 14 in special forces and I have a friend in the Marine Corps who enlisted in '01 and has done 7 deployments. He had to shoot a kid that threw a grenade in his HMMWV and tons of other crap. He's doing alright
I can't speak for myself as I've never been deployed, let alone serve, but I imagine that it's based on the individual and not what is going on. Thousands have been diagnosed with PTSD and other disorders but hundreds of thousands haven't. He snapped after 4 tours of duty, but there are men who have served 14 in special forces and I have a friend in the Marine Corps who enlisted in '01 and has done 7 deployments. He had to shoot a kid that threw a grenade in his HMMWV and tons of other crap. He's doing alright
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And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
R I P shitfy
We hardly knew ye
ShiTfy
C- on originality
C- on originality
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
You know this how?!?-Sh1fty- wrote:
He's doing alright
Yeah... assuming is kinda the whole problem we're having with guys over there (and after they come back) with PTSD and snapping.
the statistics speak for themselves Pirana6
The ratio is irrefutable
The ratio is irrefutable
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
Agreed. They're never going to be ready to run their own affairs until they run their own affairs. We could be getting them ready for another 200 years if we had the money and manpower.13urnzz wrote:
even the republican candidates are now saying we need to leave trashcanistan.
Which stats do mean? Those that say less military personnel have snapped than have?-Sh1fty- wrote:
the statistics speak for themselves Pirana6
The ratio is irrefutable
Should have stuck with special forces.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
ok armchair general-Sh1fty- wrote:
Should have stuck with special forces.
All the big catches were made by Spec Ops. The big catches were the only ones that were even a minor threat to the U.S.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
A guy who is a Vietnam Vet. stayed fairly often at my work, as he has PTSD even to this day. Poor bastard, really nice guy too. Haven't seen him in ages now.
Which is odd, because they were the ones who wanted to go in - without any logical reason.13urnzz wrote:
i wouldn't be too sure, even the republican candidates are now saying we need to leave trashcanistan.
Fuck Israel
Well yeah, but it was popular then...Dilbert_X wrote:
Which is odd, because they were the ones who wanted to go in - without any logical reason.13urnzz wrote:
i wouldn't be too sure, even the republican candidates are now saying we need to leave trashcanistan.
No wait... Everyone has been pissed off about all this "war" crap since about Hussein's capture...
At least we got him back for destroying the WTC.
No wait... That was a different guy, several years later.
Damn, and I am a Republican.
Back to the bad old days: Karzai beats retreat on women's rights President gives support to religious edict that reads: 'Men are fundamental, women are secondary'
And we're there fighting the Taliban... why?
And we're there fighting the Taliban... why?
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"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Call of Duty: MW4 research?
I think overall goal here is to keep them fighting over there... That way they don't all become peaceful with each other and then come make us be peaceful over here.
That is such a bizarre concept... Them marching in here to overthrow our government that we don't approve of right now, and oust our leaders that we don't approve of right now, and impose their government on us... And then I bet they would be shocked when we fought back instead of just accepting their obviously better system. You know, like what we do, only in reverse.
That is such a bizarre concept... Them marching in here to overthrow our government that we don't approve of right now, and oust our leaders that we don't approve of right now, and impose their government on us... And then I bet they would be shocked when we fought back instead of just accepting their obviously better system. You know, like what we do, only in reverse.
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I know right. Santorum though, he really wants to promote womens rights.Jay wrote:
Back to the bad old days: Karzai beats retreat on women's rights President gives support to religious edict that reads: 'Men are fundamental, women are secondary'
And we're there fighting the Taliban... why?
He's got a point though.Cybargs wrote:
ok armchair general-Sh1fty- wrote:
Should have stuck with special forces.
I've got a book written by a Delta commander who explained how SF teams scared the shit out of the Taliban because they used the same hit and run tactics, and even went as far as dressing up in buraqs. Having the larger forces on the ground just provides more (and obvious) targets unfortunately.
but it's nothing new, it's something that's been said just here at least 10 times before. he's just parroting it a few years later.M.O.A.B wrote:
He's got a point though.Cybargs wrote:
ok armchair general-Sh1fty- wrote:
Should have stuck with special forces.
I've got a book written by a Delta commander who explained how SF teams scared the shit out of the Taliban because they used the same hit and run tactics, and even went as far as dressing up in buraqs. Having the larger forces on the ground just provides more (and obvious) targets unfortunately.
Marines and other troops among the 200 people gathered in a tent at Camp Leatherneck to hear Mr. Panetta speak were abruptly asked by their commander to get up, place their weapons — M-16 and M-4 automatic rifles and 9-mm pistols — outside the tent and then return unarmed. The commander, Sgt. Maj. Brandon Hall, told reporters he was acting on orders from superiors.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/15/world … r=1&hp
"Somebody got itchy; we just adjust."
whoa there
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/15/world … r=1&hp
"Somebody got itchy; we just adjust."
whoa there