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2012-02-18 03:48:58

#4801

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,814|6333|eXtreme to the maX

Nice, I miss my HP.

A wider trigger might help, I never felt the need for one. If you're changing the trigger its easy enough not to fit the mag disconnector - or you can polish the shoe and buff the mags where it runs and you won't even know its there.
But its an unnecessary part which could jam so might as well take it out.

Why do you feel you need to change all the springs? The factory springs work fine, anyone who says different is selling springs. You don't want the sear spring too light on an HP.

First day out with my HP the first five shots I did were a 2inch group right in the 10 of and ISSF target, one handed at 25m with the issue trigger weight.
Never did that well with it again though.

Out of the box autos - apart from 1911s - should not be expected to malfunction.
My HP had a rough chamber, after fixing that it never malfunctioned - with all types of ammo and ~10,000 handloads.
My friends Glock never malfunctioned - and he didn't clean it ever.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2012-02-18 03:55:12)

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2012-02-18 04:08:27

#4802

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,814|6333|eXtreme to the maX

Naturn wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3M46XVfVOU

Hillbillies - jesus christ.

Don't ever mess around with shotguns and shotgun ammo unless you really know what you're doing - that guy is an idiot.

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2012-02-18 09:05:23

#4803

NeXuS: Shock it till ya know it; +375|6569|Atlanta, Georgia

Dilbert_X wrote:
Naturn wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3M46XVfVOU
Hillbillies - jesus christ.

Don't ever mess around with shotguns and shotgun ammo unless you really know what you're doing - that guy is an idiot.

Apparently he knows what he's doing. His papy's done it fer years.

2012-02-18 09:14:46

#4804

SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|6796|Mountains of NC

Dilbert_X wrote:
Naturn wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3M46XVfVOU
Hillbillies - jesus christ.

Don't ever mess around with shotguns and shotgun ammo unless you really know what you're doing - that guy is an idiot.

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2012-02-18 09:19:12

#4805

rdx-fx: ...; +955|6819

Dilbert_X wrote:
Nice, I miss my HP.

A wider trigger might help, I never felt the need for one. If you're changing the trigger its easy enough not to fit the mag disconnector - or you can polish the shoe and buff the mags where it runs and you won't even know its there.
But its an unnecessary part which could jam so might as well take it out.

Why do you feel you need to change all the springs? The factory springs work fine, anyone who says different is selling springs. You don't want the sear spring too light on an HP.

First day out with my HP the first five shots I did were a 2inch group right in the 10 of and ISSF target, one handed at 25m with the issue trigger weight.
Never did that well with it again though.

Out of the box autos - apart from 1911s - should not be expected to malfunction.
My HP had a rough chamber, after fixing that it never malfunctioned - with all types of ammo and ~10,000 handloads.
My friends Glock never malfunctioned - and he didn't clean it ever.

Wider trigger is more for personal preference.

Magazine disconnector removal is the one required mod for a HP.

Mainspring change would be from the 32# to the original spec 28#.
Though I'll do the trigger work first, and see how I like that, before messing with the springs.

I may have to get educated on proper pistol shooting.

2012-02-18 10:31:26

#4806

RAIMIUS: You with the face!; +244|6942|US

Dilbert_X wrote:
Out of the box autos - apart from 1911s - should not be expected to malfunction.

What 1911s are you buying?

2012-02-18 12:27:56

#4807

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,814|6333|eXtreme to the maX

NeXuS wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
Naturn wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3M46XVfVOU
Hillbillies - jesus christ.

Don't ever mess around with shotguns and shotgun ammo unless you really know what you're doing - that guy is an idiot.
Apparently he knows what he's doing. His papy's done it fer years.

His daddy having done it doesn't mean he knows what he's doing or that his daddy did.
Shotguns and shotgun ammo are marginal at the best of times - best not to mess with them.

Fuck Israel

2012-02-18 13:03:44

#4808

1stSFOD-Delta: Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales; +376|6206|Blue Mountain State

RAIMIUS wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
Out of the box autos - apart from 1911s - should not be expected to malfunction.
What 1911s are you buying?

I've had zero problems with my 1911s.

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2012-02-18 20:19:20

#4809

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,814|6333|eXtreme to the maX

rdx-fx wrote:
Wider trigger is more for personal preference.

Magazine disconnector removal is the one required mod for a HP.

Mainspring change would be from the 32# to the original spec 28#.
Though I'll do the trigger work first, and see how I like that, before messing with the springs.

I may have to get educated on proper pistol shooting.

A light trigger doesn't always make for better shooting, a firm grip is critical - lighten the trigger and people tend to slacken their grip.

I know a good number of people who have not found 1911s to be reliable.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2012-02-18 20:19:58)

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2012-02-18 23:40:50

#4810

rdx-fx: ...; +955|6819

Dilbert_X wrote:
rdx-fx wrote:
Wider trigger is more for personal preference.

Magazine disconnector removal is the one required mod for a HP.

Mainspring change would be from the 32# to the original spec 28#.
Though I'll do the trigger work first, and see how I like that, before messing with the springs.

I may have to get educated on proper pistol shooting.
A light trigger doesn't always make for better shooting, a firm grip is critical - lighten the trigger and people tend to slacken their grip.

I know a good number of people who have not found 1911s to be reliable.

Personally, I get better accuracy the more I resist the recoil.
When I try to get the front sight back on target ASAP, accuracy is better.
When I just ride the recoil, let the pistol come back into alignment naturally - accuracy suffers.

2012-02-19 02:55:38

#4811

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,814|6333|eXtreme to the maX

Thats not how it works for most people, oh well.

If you really mean 'resist recoil' thats one thing, if its anticipating recoil to get back on target then generally no.
You can do the former by grip, stance and muscle tension, the latter invariably fails.
If you need this for accuracy then your trigger control is poor or you're anticipating, or something else.

I once demonstrated to a plod just how accurate an HP can be by holding the grip with the middle finger only - providing trigger control and everything else is good - he was flinching so hard I thought he was going to hit the bench with the gun.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2012-02-19 03:15:49)

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2012-02-19 06:45:56

#4812

rdx-fx: ...; +955|6819

No, definitely not anticipating recoil.
By 'resist recoil', I mean to actively try to get the sights back on target after the front sight leaves the target from recoil.
Essentially, if the front sight is not on target, I'm working to get it back on target ASAP.
As if you were on a timed course, or if the target were shooting back.
More of an active recoil control, rather than a passive bang, muzzle flip, slight bend of the elbow, let the lower arm and pistol fall back on target

Spent plenty of time with my M-16 and AR-15 doing "dime drills"; Balance a dime on the top of the muzzle, practice dry firing without letting the dime fall off, and without the sight moving from a target dot a few yards away.
With my bolt action, the standard is to watch the scope recoil towards me when shooting (i.e., no flinch, not even a blink).

But, I'm open to trying new methods with pistols.
Pistols are just different enough from rifles that techniques from rifles may not translate well into pistols.

With standing rifle shooting , the width of your stance has an effect on the elevation of your natural point of aim.

With prone rifles , the line (angle) of your body behind the rifle will change the angle of the heart & breathing wobble.
Ideally, you adjust your angle such that any breathing effects move the scope exactly vertically.

Anything similar to that with pistols?

2012-02-19 10:38:57