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Steak.... mmmmm....

ComradeWho wrote:

i think that focusing on the humanization of animals is a way to demonize vegetarians and not focus on the valid claims that are made which have to do with:
1. the pollution which results from factory farming.
2. the biological implications of creating bacterias which are resistent to our pharmaceuticals.
3. the amount of energy waste which results from feeding animals tons of grains which could be used to feed the hungry as opposed to produce a minute amount of meat which only the privaleged will eat.
4. genetic and chemical modification of animals to compensate for poisonous living conditions that would kill the animals we eat (mmm nothing i'd like to put in my body more than an animal that grew up in a toxic environment and was kept alive with steroids and penicilin until it was old enough to kill!).
5. that animal cruelty laws are barely enforced and that there are, in fact, more humane ways to raise and slaughter animals.

1. Give your business to free-roaming farms instead. It's a better way to protest.
2. Vegetables are just as subject to hazardous biologicals. Remember the e-coli/alfalfa issue?
3. Much of the food fed to livestock isn't 'fit for human consumption.' Additionally, food sent to starving nations is usually left to rot under guard, rather than used to feed people who could, once fed, possibly stage an uprising against their corrupt governments.
4. Agreed; see 1.
5. Agreed; see 1. Additionally, hunting can also be more humane then impersonal slaughter.

I don't believe in the waste of animal products. What meat I buy I make every effort to use before it spoils. Meat offers nutrition that is otherwise too costly to maintain through dietary supplements, and I am not self-righteous enough to turn it down. Logically, the destruction and consumption of vegetables can be considered hostile to forms of life. Killing in some form will always be a part of life on Earth. Even when food can be synthesized, culling will be important for maintaining manageable levels of plant/animal populations.

Bubbalo wrote:

Major_Spittle wrote:

What about a Rat skin coat, rats are never cool animals when they talk in cartoons.

Well, typically people with ratskin coats are evil anyway.

P.S.  Rattis the Rat was cool.  But then, that was Australian.  And not a cartoon.

Wha' about Darren? Doesn't the feral dog deserve a mention?

Flecco wrote:

Wha' about Darren? Doesn't the feral dog deserve a mention?

Yeah, and the Koalas.

You still eat Welsh Lamb after hearing of rumours of what we do to them 1st ?

Talking of animals and food, I find it odd that one of the most expensive on a menu can be prawns. These things eat and swim in shit. It's no wonder they drown the lil buggers in garlic. Oh, sorry, don't let that put you off.

{A.K.A}LordBeefman wrote:

BEE_Grim_Reaper wrote:

Flecco wrote:

You aren't Australian are you? YOUR A KIWI IN DISGUISE.... SHOOT THE SHEEP SHAGGER!

@ Topic... I don't see the problem with eating meat.... It is the reason humans developed intelligence....

Um... there are no Kiwis in Australia... that would be New Zealand

Anyhow.... human metabolism requires animals protein... and since I heard, that kannibalism is not really en vogue these days... give me my bloody steak

we aussies love our beef and lamb

for whole different reason lol

PETA doesn't object to the eating of meat.  They sometimes object to the way in which livestock are raised, but by and large they concentrate more on commercial skinning and animal testing, as well as chicken coops for eggs (the conditions of them).  Having said that, I have more respect for the RSPCA.

Ahhh, number 3.... I grew up on a farm and our animals ate grass. I don't think the starving would appreciate bales of hay to eat.

ComradeWho wrote:

i think that focusing on the humanization of animals is a way to demonize vegetarians and not focus on the valid claims that are made which have to do with:
1. the pollution which results from factory farming.
2. the biological implications of creating bacterias which are resistent to our pharmaceuticals.
3. the amount of energy waste which results from feeding animals tons of grains which could be used to feed the hungry as opposed to produce a minute amount of meat which only the privaleged will eat.
4. genetic and chemical modification of animals to compensate for poisonous living conditions that would kill the animals we eat (mmm nothing i'd like to put in my body more than an animal that grew up in a toxic environment and was kept alive with steroids and penicilin until it was old enough to kill!).
5. that animal cruelty laws are barely enforced and that there are, in fact, more humane ways to raise and slaughter animals.

I agree. Apes also eat meat. I think the only one that doesn't is the gorilla.

But of course apes and man aren't related so that doesn't stand does it...

goblinstomper wrote:

3 reason why we are meant to eat meat
* we have eyes in the front of our head... we ar not meant to be chased.. we chase other animals ie a predator!
*We have sharp bloody teeth.. do i really need to explain that one...
*We have an extrmely small and decrepid apendix, thats the only part of the gut that digests cellulose (the substance that makes up cell walls in plants)
You kinda get the point, it's the same reason that you dont see vegetarian leopards or shit in the wild.

Actually, we don't *need* meat.  You can survive very healthily as a vegetarian.  It's just much harder.  And there's no real benefit.

I may not eat that much meat but I definitely require my daily dose.

Vegetarians keep telling you that you can have a complete diet even without meat but I'm not so sure. Most vegetarians I've seen looked kinda weird but that may also have been a lifestyle thing...
Had a vegetarian girl in my class in highschool, she looked like she'd been missing out on certain nutrients but I felt unusually attracted to her...

Rosse_modest wrote:

I may not eat that much meat but I definitely require my daily dose.

Vegetarians keep telling you that you can have a complete diet even without meat but I'm not so sure. Most vegetarians I've seen looked kinda weird but that may also have been a lifestyle thing...
Had a vegetarian girl in my class in highschool, she looked like she'd been missing out on certain nutrients but I felt unusually attracted to her...

That's because it's *very* hard to get enough protein.  But it *can* be done.

Fun fact:  The least energy intensive food to digest is human flesh.

The problem isn't with eating meat, it's that we eat too much fatty meat, primarily pork and beef.  Cold water fish, like salmon are high in protein, and have amino acids that are better for you.