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2011-09-19 21:25:17
HITNRUNXX
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No, insurance companies are not legal punishments.... No wait... What was I saying?

Anyway, it is a great analogy.

Also, a great analogy would be: Kill all the black people period, cause they are supposedly more likely to be violent offenders. Then since they are all gone, the most likely will be men in general, so kill all of them. Then kill all the women.

*boots up Skynet*

But since this was about the law punishing you and not insurance getting away with crap, I stick by that analogy.

P.S. My insurance is the same as my wife's, but I agree with you for most insurance companies, and especially with younger males. Just like being single, driving a red car, a sports car, etc can affect your rates.
2011-09-19 21:35:49
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Jenspm wrote:

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But a prosecutor cited the "the race factor" and asked whether Buck's being black "increases the future dangerousness." Yes, the psychologist replied. Prosecutors cited that testimony in their closing argument.
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2011-09-19 21:38:41
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Roc18 wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

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But a prosecutor cited the "the race factor" and asked whether Buck's being black "increases the future dangerousness." Yes, the psychologist replied. Prosecutors cited that testimony in their closing argument.
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2011-09-19 21:42:59
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this topic reminds me of the chewbacca defense
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2011-09-19 22:32:50
Hurricane2k9
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"The Race Factor" sounds like some sort of Al Sharpton/MSNBC spin-off of O'reilly's show.
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2011-09-20 03:41:03
lowing
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HITNRUNXX wrote:

No, insurance companies are not legal punishments.... No wait... What was I saying?

Anyway, it is a great analogy.

Also, a great analogy would be: Kill all the black people period, cause they are supposedly more likely to be violent offenders. Then since they are all gone, the most likely will be men in general, so kill all of them. Then kill all the women.

*boots up Skynet*

But since this was about the law punishing you and not insurance getting away with crap, I stick by that analogy.

P.S. My insurance is the same as my wife's, but I agree with you for most insurance companies, and especially with younger males. Just like being single, driving a red car, a sports car, etc can affect your rates.
No the statistic was about re offending, not punishment, and the FACT is that murderer was statistically more likely to re-offend.
2011-09-20 04:38:19
Ty
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But the prosecution wasn't highlighting the fact that he was more likely to re-offend as a murderer, (which is pointless given that a non-murder can't re-offend,) they were highlighting that he was more likely to reoffend as a black murderer. Regardless of the race factor general statistics are very poor evidence anyway, not to mention that it was a psychologist who gave this testimony, (which went outside his expertise as a witness.) Where did he even get these statistics? Did they refer to murder or just violent crime in general? See this is why a court works on the facts of a case rather than what is essentially speculation. Facts like how Buck had no history of violent offending. Facts like the victims were his girlfriend and a male friend of hers. Facts like how he was on drugs at the time. This doesn't discount what Buck did, it was a terrible crime and he should be punished. But really this doesn't paint the picture of the kind of psychopath that the death sentence should be reserved for, and certainly no more so because of the colour of his skin.
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2011-09-20 07:58:29
HITNRUNXX
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lowing wrote:

No the statistic was about re offending, not punishment, and the FACT is that murderer was statistically more likely to re-offend.
The stat was being USED FOR punishment... Capital punishment, to be specific...
2011-09-20 12:01:47
lowing
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HITNRUNXX wrote:

lowing wrote:

No the statistic was about re offending, not punishment, and the FACT is that murderer was statistically more likely to re-offend.
The stat was being USED FOR punishment... Capital punishment, to be specific...
THe DA used every FACT at his disposal to seal his capital punishment argument. Like they always do.

Get back with me when the DA, under a similar crime, does not seek the death penalty for a white murderer, or if he does, does not do it with the same zeal. Until then I applaud the DA using every FACT at his disposal to follow through with his job.
2011-09-20 12:10:35
HITNRUNXX
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You can't say someone is more likely to commit a crime because of a statistic of their entire race. That is as dumb as "As a human, if he more likely to commit murder?" That is asinine.

As a DA, you shouldn't be worried about your stats, and that is all this boils down too. Life in prison or execution. Just one more stat under my belt.
2011-09-20 12:15:15
lowing
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HITNRUNXX wrote:

You can't say someone is more likely to commit a crime because of a statistic of their entire race. That is as dumb as "As a human, if he more likely to commit murder?" That is asinine.

As a DA, you shouldn't be worried about your stats, and that is all this boils down too. Life in prison or execution. Just one more stat under my belt.
I guess my attitude stems more from, he is a murderer, fuck him. Race really shouldn't matter however.
2011-09-21 06:37:43
HITNRUNXX
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lowing wrote:

HITNRUNXX wrote:

You can't say someone is more likely to commit a crime because of a statistic of their entire race. That is as dumb as "As a human, if he more likely to commit murder?" That is asinine.

As a DA, you shouldn't be worried about your stats, and that is all this boils down too. Life in prison or execution. Just one more stat under my belt.
I guess my attitude stems more from, he is a murderer, fuck him. Race really shouldn't matter however.
I agree.

And I could care less if they execute him or not, as long as they keep him away from society.

However, it would serve that DA right if this case was cited by the defense in a future murder case where the defendant was white, to "prove" that he was less likely to repeat offend.

 

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