lowing
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Pug wrote:

Yup, including the double standard which defines discrimination to race specific.
sure lets have it.
Pug
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Question 1:
http://www.womenspolicy.org/site/PageSe … ens_caucus

Not one penis in this caucus.  Is the purpose of this organization to promote discrimination?
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
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Question 2:
What relevance does the NAACP have in this thread?
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
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Question 3:
You mentioned the KKK as your argument.  Do you recognize the KKK cannot operate with legislative authority or influence in congress, and therefore is irrelevant to the topic at hand?
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
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Question 4:
Do you realize that if an all-white caucus was formed it would cease to be a functioning caucus if it did not follow the rules governing LSO's...rules that disallow your wet dream of having racist laws being passed?
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
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more to come
KEN-JENNINGS
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NO Pug, you CANNOT ask a question without ANSWERING one FIRST!
Pug
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Question 5: Allen West is part of both the CBC AND the Tea Party.  How is he part of both organizations when both caucuses have members who have accused the other of being racist?  Does this mean he hates whites and blacks equally?  More importantly, if he's part of both, is he bi?
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
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Question 6: If one person in the CBC is labeled as racist by you does that make the CBC a racist organization?
Pug
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Question 7: If one person in the CBC is absolutely against racism, does that make the CBC a non-racist organization?
Pug
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Question 8: If publically it seems that the one person from question 6 (Andre Carson?) and publically it seems that the one person from question 7 (Allen West?) are very up front about their beliefs are part of the CBC, which do we believe since one seems to cancel out the other?
lowing
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Pug wrote:

Question 1:
http://www.womenspolicy.org/site/PageSe … ens_caucus

Not one penis in this caucus.  Is the purpose of this organization to promote discrimination?
possibly, what could a woman citizen need from govt. that a male citizen doesn't?

If they are looking for special consideration simply because they are women then yes, that would be discriminatory. If they are looking for special consideration because of needs exclusive to women, then no.
lowing
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Pug wrote:

Question 2:
What relevance does the NAACP have in this thread?
It is a racist organization with ties to the CBC another racist organization...Does that count?
lowing
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Pug wrote:

Question 3:
You mentioned the KKK as your argument.  Do you recognize the KKK cannot operate with legislative authority or influence in congress, and therefore is irrelevant to the topic at hand?
Yeah I can buy that, can you recognize the NAACP can not either, yet the CBC is highly influenced by the NAACP. Would you stand for a white congressional organization to be highly influenced by the KKK?
lowing
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Pug wrote:

Question 4:
Do you realize that if an all-white caucus was formed it would cease to be a functioning caucus if it did not follow the rules governing LSO's...rules that disallow your wet dream of having racist laws being passed?
DO you realize that an all white caucus would never be allowed to form without being labeled a racist organization? Kinda the point of the whole argument.
lowing
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Pug wrote:

more to come
I'll be here
lowing
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Pug wrote:

Question 5: Allen West is part of both the CBC AND the Tea Party.  How is he part of both organizations when both caucuses have members who have accused the other of being racist?  Does this mean he hates whites and blacks equally?  More importantly, if he's part of both, is he bi?
Only difference is, the tea party has grounds in calling the CBC racist, after all they refuse to allow any other race within their midst. The CBC has no such grounds since there are quite a few blacks within the tea party ranks.

Nope it means he hates groundless accusations.

I doubt it.
lowing
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Pug wrote:

Question 6: If one person in the CBC is labeled as racist by you does that make the CBC a racist organization?
Nope, the CBC is racist baed on its racist actions by refusing non blacks to join. It is racist by the elected officials spending time on blacks only issues whatever that is, and not the issues of all the people.
lowing
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Pug wrote:

Question 7: If one person in the CBC is absolutely against racism, does that make the CBC a non-racist organization?
Not sure how you can belong to a blacks only organization and not be racist. Akin to belonging to the KKK and not being a white supremacist.

If you do not believe in the agenda of a blacks only organization, then what are you doing there?
lowing
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Pug wrote:

Question 8: If publically it seems that the one person from question 6 (Andre Carson?) and publically it seems that the one person from question 7 (Allen West?) are very up front about their beliefs are part of the CBC, which do we believe since one seems to cancel out the other?
Easy, Andre' Carson is a racist based on his words and his officiation with a racist organization.  Allen West belonging to a racist organization that is blacks only and an organization that is clearly for the people, all the people does seem to be in conflict, and it would seem he might see that as well which has prompted him to resign from the racist organization.
lowing
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Now a question for you. Since all of our laws are not race specific. Name one issue that our govt. should do for "blacks only" that it should not do for every other citizen. and if you can not think of one, then there is no other reason to have a blacks only organization other than for discriminatory reasons.
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lowing wrote:

Easy, Andre' Carson is a racist based on his words and his officiation with a racist organization.  Allen West belonging to a racist organization that is blacks only and an organization that is clearly for the people, all the people does seem to be in conflict, and it would seem he might see that as well which has prompted him to resign from the racist organization.
so, he quit the Tea Party Caucus?
Pug
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lowing wrote:

Pug wrote:

Question 1:
http://www.womenspolicy.org/site/PageSe … ens_caucus

Not one penis in this caucus.  Is the purpose of this organization to promote discrimination?
possibly, what could a woman citizen need from govt. that a male citizen doesn't?

If they are looking for special consideration simply because they are women then yes, that would be discriminatory. If they are looking for special consideration because of needs exclusive to women, then no.
These laws are exclusive to women, listed on the accomplishments page.  By definition, they get special consideration simply because they are women:
The Pregnancy Discrimination Act

The Women's Business Ownership Act

The Breast and Cervical Cancer Mortality Prevention Act

The Mammography Quality Standards Act

The Family and Medical Leave Act

The Violence Against Women Act

The Commission on the Advancement of Women and Minorities in Science, Engineering, and Technology Development Act

Reauthorization of the Mammography Quality Standards Act


So based on your explanation...is the purpose of this organization to promote discrimination?
Pug
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lowing wrote:

Pug wrote:

Question 2:
What relevance does the NAACP have in this thread?
It is a racist organization with ties to the CBC another racist organization...Does that count?
Well, I guess we have to define some things first.

1) what is racism?  it's discrimination.  since we are having some issues defining what exactly discrimination is in question #1...let's wait a bit on this part.

2) Is the NAACP a caucus?  No.  This is the point I'm making.  The NAACP is a special interest group, but lacks "using the legislative process".  Therefore, the comparison between the NAACP and the CBC is false.

3) Membership.  Being a member in an organization doesn't me you agree with all ideals.  I've addressed this later in the questions.  So I guess we have to wait on the first part of this to be resolved "what is discrimination" as well as some of the later questions...
Pug
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lowing wrote:

Pug wrote:

Question 3:
You mentioned the KKK as your argument.  Do you recognize the KKK cannot operate with legislative authority or influence in congress, and therefore is irrelevant to the topic at hand?
Yeah I can buy that, can you recognize the NAACP can not either, yet the CBC is highly influenced by the NAACP. Would you stand for a white congressional organization to be highly influenced by the KKK?
Ok, so we can put this one aside then.  Yes, if there was a white supremist caucus, I would bet the KKK would be highly supportive.  Aka, the members would get campaign contributions.

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