BF2S Forums Walgreens employee fired for defending his store

13rin wrote:

HITNRUNXX wrote:

Sure they do. He is on someone else's property. They have the right to tell you that you are not allowed to carry guns on their property. If you don't agree, go somewhere else.

I have every right to tell people that they are not allowed to bring guns into my house or into my business. Their rights don't overwrite mine. They aren't being forced to be on my property.

Ok Suppose you are an atheist..  When One steps into your store do they at that point lose their right to believe in god? How about voting?  Do they lose their right to vote?  Can't pick and choose.

That is the most ignorant thing I have ever read.

No, you are not allowed to vote in my house. Go find a voting booth. I will decide what I am grilling for dinner. You have no vote.  I run a tyranny.

I don't care what you believe. You have no right to tell my kids in my house if I tell you not to. If you choose to anyway, I can kick you out.

The United States can't kick you out for preaching your beliefs. Do you honestly think it is the same thing?

Wow.

13rin wrote:

HITNRUNXX wrote:

No, you are not allowed to vote in my house. Go find a voting booth. I will decide what I am grilling for dinner. You have no vote.  I run a tyranny.

I don't care what you believe. You have no right to tell my kids in my house if I tell you not to. If you choose to anyway, I can kick you out.

The United States can't kick you out for preaching your beliefs. Do you honestly think it is the same thing?

Wow.

Haha...  Reread your own drivel sometime  then...  You can't pick and choose what amendments you want to follow.  Sorry pal it is in the Constitution.  Just because it frightens you... Too f'n bad.

What are you even talking about? MY rights are protecting in my house. I can decide if you come in or not. I can decide what rules you follow while you are here. If you don't believe that, let me know where you live. I will use my rights to live and pursue happiness in your house, and according to you, there is nothing you can do about it.

Jay wrote:

13rin wrote:

Jay wrote:

Uhh, yeah, they should. If I own a business, I get to choose whether guns are permissible on my property or not. Or do you not respect property law now?

Didn't you at one time say that a person never truly owns their land/property?

Ahh, ok, so you won't mind if I come shit on your lawn then.

Indecent exposure

Simple fact: One persons rights don't overwrite another persons rights.

Also known as "Your rights end where my nose begins."

Also known as "My house, my rules."

If I own a business, that is mine too.

If you don't like it, take your business somewhere else.

HITNRUNXX wrote:

13rin wrote:

HITNRUNXX wrote:

No, you are not allowed to vote in my house. Go find a voting booth. I will decide what I am grilling for dinner. You have no vote.  I run a tyranny.

I don't care what you believe. You have no right to tell my kids in my house if I tell you not to. If you choose to anyway, I can kick you out.

The United States can't kick you out for preaching your beliefs. Do you honestly think it is the same thing?

Wow.

Haha...  Reread your own drivel sometime  then...  You can't pick and choose what amendments you want to follow.  Sorry pal it is in the Constitution.  Just because it frightens you... Too f'n bad.

What are you even talking about? MY rights are protecting in my house. I can decide if you come in or not. I can decide what rules you follow while you are here. If you don't believe that, let me know where you live. I will use my rights to live and pursue happiness in your house, and according to you, there is nothing you can do about it.

I'm not in your house, I am in a place of business and conducting a transaction... Please reread the title  of this thread... and the constitution.

13rin wrote:

HITNRUNXX wrote:

13rin wrote:

Haha...  Reread your own drivel sometime  then...  You can't pick and choose what amendments you want to follow.  Sorry pal it is in the Constitution.  Just because it frightens you... Too f'n bad.

What are you even talking about? MY rights are protecting in my house. I can decide if you come in or not. I can decide what rules you follow while you are here. If you don't believe that, let me know where you live. I will use my rights to live and pursue happiness in your house, and according to you, there is nothing you can do about it.

I'm not in your house, I am in a place of business and conducting a transaction... Please reread the title  of this thread... and the constitution.

And that business is owned by someone. And that someone can decide if you can carry your gun on their property. And if you don't like their answer, you can take your transaction somewhere else.

According to you, I should be able to walk into a bank carrying an AK47 and they should be cool with it.

13rin wrote:

Jay wrote:

Way to twist my argument to suit your own desires though. You're right, you don't ultimately own your own property, the state does. This is why your land can be seized if you don't pay property taxes, or if you 'blight' your property. However, as long as I do pay my taxes and keep the land out of blight, I am the owner. And no, you can't bring a gun into my home.

I think I we are comparing apples to oranges.  I am referring to businesses, not homes.

How is it any different? Someone owns the property do they not? They dictate the rules. No shirt, no shoes, no service is a sign you see in many places, no? Do you bitch about your freedom of speech when confronted by those signs?

HITNRUNXX wrote:

And that business is owned by someone. And that someone can decide if you can carry your gun on their property. And if you don't like their answer, you can take your transaction somewhere else.

According to you, I should be able to walk into a bank carrying an AK47 and they should be cool with it.

If there is an open carry....  In my opinion, if a business is open to the public or takes subsidies from the state, then one should be able to lawfully carry.

Jay wrote:

If I was Walgreens I would not only have fired his dumb ass, I would've filed charges against him on account of his putting the lives of the other employees, plus customers in danger. Nice fat little civil suit as well.

Um... The other guy was in the commission of a forcible felony robbing their store (and escalated it to arguably attempted murder)..  Why would you defend him and punish the employee?

13rin wrote:

HITNRUNXX wrote:

And that business is owned by someone. And that someone can decide if you can carry your gun on their property. And if you don't like their answer, you can take your transaction somewhere else.

According to you, I should be able to walk into a bank carrying an AK47 and they should be cool with it.

If there is an open carry....  In my opinion, if a business is open to the public or takes subsidies from the state, then one should be able to lawfully carry.

Banks, Schools, Police Departments, Federal Buildings. Have fun.

Jay wrote:

13rin wrote:

HITNRUNXX wrote:

And that business is owned by someone. And that someone can decide if you can carry your gun on their property. And if you don't like their answer, you can take your transaction somewhere else.

According to you, I should be able to walk into a bank carrying an AK47 and they should be cool with it.

If there is an open carry....  In my opinion, if a business is open to the public or takes subsidies from the state, then one should be able to lawfully carry.

Nope.

I guess that is just where we'll agree to disagree.  Just because I'm on someones else land doesn't mean that I will waive my constitutional rights.  Honestly, I avoid places where I'm not permitted to carry.  I'd rather give my business to someone else.

13rin wrote:

Jay wrote:

13rin wrote:

If there is an open carry....  In my opinion, if a business is open to the public or takes subsidies from the state, then one should be able to lawfully carry.

Nope.

I guess that is just where we'll agree to disagree.  Just because I'm on someones else land doesn't mean that I will waive my constitutional rights.  Honestly, I avoid places where I'm not permitted to carry.  I'd rather give my business to someone else.

That's fine. It's your right to frequent any business as you choose. It's my right as a property owner to set the rules for people entering my property.