Macbeth
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Also remove their tax exempt status. How do you feel about that? I think it would be a great idea.

I think that whole white guilt thing prevents a discussion of doing any of these despite the fact it should have been done a long time ago. Really now, there isn't a single native American alive who was on the trail of tears or were around when wounded knee happened. Why should we continue to sink money into making sure the descendants of the native Americans, who never had to endure their ancestors hardship, get casinos, receive food rations, get cash payments and a host of other things despite doing nothing for it. The money we sink into the Native American community is as bad if not worse than the welfare and food stamp programs in this country.. (Look up poverty on the reservations. Every societal ill the U.S. and Europe has is much worse on the reservations including chronic alcoholism and drug abuse. Dependency and abuse of government programs is a norm on the reservations.)


There is also a damn good argument against multiculturalism that can be observed in Native American communities.
A final objection (and one that has received the most attention in recent scholarly debates about multiculturalism) argues that extending protections to minority groups may come at the price of reinforcing oppression of vulnerable members of those groups—what some have called the problem of “internal minorities” or “minorities within minorities” (Green 1994, Eisenberg and Spinner-Halev 2005). Multicultural theorists have focused on inequalities between groups in arguing for special protections for minority groups, but group-based protections can exacerbate inequalities within minority groups. This is because some ways of protecting minority groups from oppression by the majority may make it more likely that more powerful members of those groups are able to undermine the basic liberties and opportunities of vulnerable members. Vulnerable subgroups within minority groups include religious dissenters, sexual minorities, women, and children. A group's leaders may exaggerate the degree of consensus and solidarity within their group to present a united front to the wider society and strengthen their case for accommodation.
How does this relate to our Natives?
One in three Native American women will be raped at some point in their lives, a rate that is more than double that for non-Indian women, according to a new report by Amnesty International.

The report, "Maze of Injustice: The Failure to Protect Indigenous Women from Sexual Violence in the USA," noted a variety of reasons that rape is so prevalent on reservations, according to its authors.

In 1978, the Supreme Court ruled in Oliphant v. the Suquamish Indian Tribe that tribal governments have no criminal jurisdiction over non-Indians. When a crime is committed, tribal police and their non-Indian counterparts must hash out whether the suspect is Indian or not.

Tribal governments lack the funds and staffing to patrol their lands, the report said. At the million-acre Standing Rock Sioux Reservation, which straddles North and South Dakota, seven police officers are on duty. In Alaska, where state and native police patrol a vast landscape, officers took four hours to reach the village of Nunam Iqua, during which time a barricaded suspect raped a 13-year-old girl in front of her siblings.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 02778.html

Disbanding our reservation system looks like something both liberals and conservatives could agree upon. So why isn't there a discussion about this?
Reciprocity
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they should have called it "Maize of Injustice", much funnier.
FEOS
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Could be that the US government signed treaties with those Indian nations. It's not just domestic welfare policy.
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unnamednewbie13
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Or, on a less serious note, we could push them further west...to Australia.
Cybargs
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Or, on a less serious note, we could push them further west...to Australia.
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AussieReaper
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Macbeth wrote:

Also remove their tax exempt status. How do you feel about that? I think it would be a great idea.
What if they consider the land as, say, a tribal burial ground? Or home of their spirit guides?

Churches receive tax exempt status so why should the Indians not receive the same benefit as another religion...
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unnamednewbie13
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AussieReaper wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Also remove their tax exempt status. How do you feel about that? I think it would be a great idea.
What if they consider the land as, say, a tribal burial ground? Or home of their spirit guides?

Churches receive tax exempt status so why should the Indians not receive the same benefit as another religion...
Peyote.
Hurricane2k9
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AussieReaper wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Also remove their tax exempt status. How do you feel about that? I think it would be a great idea.
What if they consider the land as, say, a tribal burial ground? Or home of their spirit guides?

Churches receive tax exempt status so why should the Indians not receive the same benefit as another religion...
Churches shouldn't receive tax exemptions...
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jsnipy
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FEOS wrote:

Could be that the US government signed treaties with those Indian nations. It's not just domestic welfare policy.
QFE
UnkleRukus
That Guy
+236|5276|Massachusetts, USA

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Also remove their tax exempt status. How do you feel about that? I think it would be a great idea.
What if they consider the land as, say, a tribal burial ground? Or home of their spirit guides?

Churches receive tax exempt status so why should the Indians not receive the same benefit as another religion...
No-one should receive tax exemptions...
Fixed
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unnamednewbie13
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UnkleRukus wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:


What if they consider the land as, say, a tribal burial ground? Or home of their spirit guides?

Churches receive tax exempt status so why should the Indians not receive the same benefit as another religion...
No one should receive tax exemptions...
Fixed
Fixed.
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the Harrahs casino on cherokee land pays out a yearly check to all cherokee living on the reservation
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13urnzz
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i thought reservations were sovereign to the people that lived there.
jsnipy
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13urnzz wrote:

i thought reservations were sovereign to the people that lived there.
(most) people here do not seem to understand that
unnamednewbie13
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Here's what we got: map of Native American reservations in the US PDF.

I imagine shutting all that down would be more difficult than leaving them up, what with redrawing boundaries and annulling treaties made.
Jay
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13urnzz wrote:

i thought reservations were sovereign to the people that lived there.
They are, they just gave up rights to diplomacy.
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Here's what we got: map of Native American reservations in the US PDF.

I imagine shutting all that down would be more difficult than leaving them up, what with redrawing boundaries and annulling treaties made.
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you're really not up for big challenges are you
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HITNRUNXX
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While we are at it, we should just annex Canada and Mexico too. The Mexicans all come here anyway, so we might as well tax the work that is outsourced there. And Canadians have the whole health care system figured out. Of course, then the people that outsource to Mexico will end up outsourcing to Brazil or something, so we will have to take over their countries too.

Oh, I know! Let's build walls around the sovereign nations of the Indians, and make people have passports to get in and out. And then we can charge import and export taxes on all goods, including cash going to and coming from the casinos. It would create construction jobs and security jobs. We could create a whole new government organization and call it "The Bureau of Indians Affairs" oh wait, that is taken... Um... How about "The Bureau of get the rest of the way out of your country" or "Hey, we can't run our government without a ridiculous deficit and yet you are making money, so let's take that 0.25% of our budget issues out on you, so you can be broke like the rest of us."

Sounds like a plan.
most of reservation land is pretty nice tho, kept native.. they dont build like the white man with endless restaurants and shopping..so it's kinda nice
jsnipy
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HITNRUNXX wrote:

While we are at it, we should just annex ... Mexico too. .
Already started with Tejas
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+510|5713|Ventura, California
We don't pay black people for what was done to them, so why should we do so for the Natives?
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+1,741|6977|Cinncinatti
because whites stole their land
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AussieReaper
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White man came, across the sea
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krazed
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Kimmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:

most of reservation land is pretty nice tho, kept native.. they dont build like the white man with endless restaurants and shopping..so it's kinda nice
i guess your reservations are different than ours

as ours are filled with broken/burned cars and shitbox homes
UnkleRukus
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AussieReaper wrote:

White man came, across the sea
He brought us pain, and misery.
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