HITNRUNXX
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+220|6949|Oklahoma City
All anybody wants to do anymore is bash the police constantly. There are a lot of bad cops out there. Police need to be policed and are not above the law... But you know what? A very large percentage of people who become police officers just want to help people.

Even if it is something as simple as this:

SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
+2,187|6808|Mountains of NC

There really isn't that big of a number of " bad " cops

alot of what cops do people think is illegal ( since the majority of people have law degree from sitting on the couch and watching " Cops "" )


Cops aren't out to be assholes ( we just hear about the ones that fuck up )

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paranoid101
Ambitious but Rubbish
+540|6979
Most people don't talk about the police when they are just doing there job like everyone else.

They only talk about them when they are doing their jobs badly.

I have a great respect for the police force, we have to put up with a hell of alot more asshole people than cops.

Last edited by paranoid101 (2011-08-25 12:42:42)

SEREMAKER
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+2,187|6808|Mountains of NC

you're just being paranoid










bad news travels faster then good news
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paranoid101
Ambitious but Rubbish
+540|6979

SEREMAKER wrote:

you're just being paranoid










bad news travels faster then good news
Lol and true
pirana6
Go Cougs!
+691|6530|Washington St.
I've had experience with asshole cops and pretty nice ones who are A. just doing their job and B. know 'boys will be boys' when I was clearly in the wrong. It's really satisfying to have a cop be nice when you think they're all bad. Makes you change your view about them quite quickly.
HITNRUNXX
Member
+220|6949|Oklahoma City

SEREMAKER wrote:

bad news travels faster then good news
Very true... And that is a shame that people are programmed that way. It would be amazing if everyone came to work and told a good story about something great that happened to them over the weekend... But that just isn't cool. It is so much more fun to bash the hell out of each other, laugh behind their backs, and talk about all the horrible things they had to suffer through.

Anyway, I just thought it would be nice to have a thread to put up some of the Serious [but not always as negative] talk. I have seen some positive stories lately, but no one posts them.
SEREMAKER
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I've worked with alot of cops and none want to be a asshole but we're all human ..... people want to be a dick to them and they end up fanning the flames


more should do ride alongs with cops and they could get a real sense of what they have to deal with
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HITNRUNXX
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+220|6949|Oklahoma City
Yeah, and don't get me wrong, I think there are a percentage of them that take the attitude of "I want to drive fast, shoot guns, and get into fights... I guess I will be a drug runner or a cop..." But I don't think that is the case with the VAST majority of them. I have dealt with some real dicks, but the majority of them I have dealt with have been great. They want to do their job, help you out, and then go home.

I think the fact that they write tickets and DON'T have as much power as people think is what hurts them the most...

If they pull you over, you are not going to be deposed to like them, even if YOU were doing something wrong.

If you call them because your car tire got slashed sometime overnight, and they take 2 hours to come out, fill out a report and just leave, you are pissed because on CSI you saw them track a killer across the country from a cast of the hole in the tire and an ash from a cigarette they smoked, and you think are being ignored.

I have been there, done that, and I sure don't want to do it again... But thank God other people do and are there.

Last edited by HITNRUNXX (2011-08-25 13:22:35)

SEREMAKER
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what pisses me off are people that intentional waste police time ( theres another thread that some trolling kids sit up a lemonade stand without proper papers )


I've had a dead battery and cop passing by called in a buddy to come give me a jump and hung around to make sure everything was cool and I got going ( back in my young teen years )
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presidentsheep
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+208|6201|Places 'n such
Never met a bad cop. Every one I've dealt with has been polite, friendly and professional.
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Commie Killer
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Back when I used to smoke we got caught by PA state cops twice. Both times we were let go with a warning. Must of noticed something good in us. Friend I used to have back then was with me both times. He kept talking about how much he hated the cops the rest of both nights. Officers were just doing their jobs.

Kid was probably jaded, previous encounters as a kid had him getting fucked. Held a grudge ever since then. Cops back then were probably just trying to instill some fear into the kid to change hes direction in life. Fucker still smokes like an O a week. Shithead got a 2240 on his SAT but hes just a lazy fat bastard who's going no where.
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Hurricane2k9
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+1,538|5941|College Park, MD
I've dealt with a couple asshole cops but most are fine folk.
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Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7014|Noizyland

I've only ever had good experiences with police, even when I've been in trouble.

When I was down in Christchurch manning cordons with the Army after the Christchurch earthquake I worked with the police. There was an incident where some dude on a learner's licence tried to get through one of the main checkpoints. He had hotboxed his car, he had passengers, (which under a learners licence you can't have,) he was driving at 1am, (also illegal under a learners licence,) his car was unregistered and its warrant of fitness had expired. The policewoman I was working with questioned him, saw his licence, asked about the drugs. The dude denied he had any and me and another private were told to do a quick search of the car. They weren't hidden very well. So a paddy wagon was summoned to take him and his mates to lock up for the night. The policewoman told me though that she would have just arranged an escort home for him if he hadn't lied about the drugs adding that despite the multitude of misdemeaners he'd probably be released in the morning with a minimal fine. She went on to say that following the earthquake police had been going really easy on people, only really cracking down on looters and violence incidents. It was true too, noticiably with marijuana. You could smell it frequently at night but the police weren't doing anything about it because of the situation.

Another time, also involving a policewoman, I was driving home at night and was stopped at a police checkpoint for breath testing for the first time. I was kind of nervous despite not having anything to drink, fear of authority maybe. Anyway the policewoman who had to test me was very professional, (also she was ridiculously hot which didn't help my nervousness,) and she did the whole "Good evening sir, have you been drinking tonight?"
Ever calm in this situation I blurted "No ossifer I haven't been drinking" and after immediately realising what I'd said made a silent "d'oh" motion. The policewoman cracked up for about 20 seconds, finally got herself together enough to make me say my address into the machine and wished me a good night, still giggling. Don't know why but since then I've never felt nervous around police.
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mikkel
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From what I've noticed, people only really come out in force against the police when individual officers who are way out of line are either backed by their departments, or given extraordinarily lenient sentences, if charged at all. Aside from the occasional individual who berates all police everywhere rather than the departments in question, I don't see any problem with it in those cases.

People tend to forget that law enforcement officers should be held to a much, much higher standard than your average idiot. When an officer does something abhorrent in the line of duty, it does need to get publicised, even if some parts of the public can't take a balanced approach to it.
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coke
Aye up duck!
+440|6949|England. Stoke

presidentsheep wrote:

Never met a bad cop. Every one I've dealt with has been polite, friendly and professional.
Main problem you'll get is, if you're on a night out in town, that they have had to deal with so many drunken knobheads that some of them will start to treat everyone as though they are a drunken knobhead which is almost understandable but still fucking annoying, and there will always be the twat who was bullied at school and is now on a power trip since he became a policeman.
unnamednewbie13
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Like in any other group, there are cops who are assholes and some of those are jerks on purpose and enjoy it. It seems that the one in the OP was one of the majority of police officers who are not.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5598|London, England
There's one cop on my commute that enjoys pulling people over during rush hour and creating traffic snarls. When he's not pulling people over in inconvenient places that are sure to cause traffic, he's standing outside of his car with his arms crossed staring down the people that drive past him. Is he the exception rather than the rule? Undoubtedly. But he's the kind of dickhead that sticks out in peoples minds.
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Dilbert_X
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Jay wrote:

There's one cop on my commute that enjoys pulling people over during rush hour and creating traffic snarls. When he's not pulling people over in inconvenient places that are sure to cause traffic, he's standing outside of his car with his arms crossed staring down the people that drive past him. Is he the exception rather than the rule? Undoubtedly. But he's the kind of dickhead that sticks out in peoples minds.
This kind of thing is not that uncommon. That assholes like that don't get hammered by their supervisors is more of a concern. They, and the public, know that when they really cross the line they'll get away with that too.

Most Police are reasonable people, but like many organisations corrupt assholes rise to the top and poison the rest of the organisation.
Then it becomes every man for himself and criminals can buy them up one by one without difficulty.

It goes in cycles and the Met are currently being exposed, again. Hopefully Hampshire will exposed through that too.

I've been well and truly on the end of corrupt asshole Police.
When a Chief Officer is provably corrupt, his three Assistant Officers are provably corrupt, and they have legions of corrupt Chief Inspectors, Inspectors, Sergeants and Constables to draw on then a Police Force can really be a problem.
There were a few honest plod who helped us out, but they had no power whatever.

OTOH The traffic plod who pulled me over on the way home from the pub with a (cased) pistol on the passenger seat was pretty reasonable, and didn't even ask to see my licence.

The only thing you can threaten the fuzz with is paperwork. Hit them with enough of that and they tend to back off.

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M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6462|Escea

The bad eggs will always hook the most attention, and naturally (and wrongly) people then picture all of their colleagues in the same light.
HITNRUNXX
Member
+220|6949|Oklahoma City

M.O.A.B wrote:

The bad eggs will always hook the most attention, and naturally (and wrongly) people then picture all of their colleagues in the same light.
Very true. And I actually understand that. I got pulled over recently by a dick cop. I have only been pulled over 3 times in my life, and the time before this was 16 years ago. He pulled me over for doing 37 as I passed the sign that changed the speed limit from 45 to 35 at the bottom of a hill, in morning rush hour traffic. He then told me he was pissed off at ME because he almost got into an accident coming out of his hiding spot when he pulled out in front of a car to come after me for "such penny ante crap." He let me off with a warning though...

My thoughts on the subject (I was respectful and didn't actually say any of this) were:
1) If you pulled out in front of a car from a blind alley before even engaging your lights/sirens then YOU need the ticket, not me.
2) If it is such "penny ante crap" why are you bothering me to begin with?
3) THIS is what the average person sees when they have to deal with a cop. THIS guy is going to interact with 50 people on any given morning, stopping them for "penny ante crap" as they are trying to get to work. THIS is the face of the police force to the public. THIS is why people start hating cops. Yet there are over 1,000 other cops in his department... THIS is what they see.
4) It is unfortunate the economy gets bad, tax dollars go down, and they have to cut all of the good outreach programs. I know they do it instead of cutting protection, but police don't get the military advantage of "You are unpatriotic and anti-American if you don't love them" attitude. Military risk their lives to keep America safe. Police risk their lives to keep America safe. Every other holiday has become a military holiday. Almost every news story is anti-police. I don't understand.
mikkel
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HITNRUNXX wrote:

I know they do it instead of cutting protection, but police don't get the military advantage of "You are unpatriotic and anti-American if you don't love them" attitude. Military risk their lives to keep America safe. Police risk their lives to keep America safe. Every other holiday has become a military holiday. Almost every news story is anti-police. I don't understand.
It seems pretty obvious. When the military fucks up abroad, it usually affects some anonymous individual half-way across the world, and most people will never hear of it. When police fucks up, it affects you and the people around you. The military is too big and too removed from the individual to mount any effective criticism against, while a local police force is more tangible. It's not a problem of police catching too much flak for their mistakes; it's that military doesn't catch enough.
HITNRUNXX
Member
+220|6949|Oklahoma City

mikkel wrote:

It seems pretty obvious. When the military fucks up abroad, it usually affects some anonymous individual half-way across the world, and most people will never hear of it. When police fucks up, it affects you and the people around you. The military is too big and too removed from the individual to mount any effective criticism against, while a local police force is more tangible. It's not a problem of police catching too much flak for their mistakes; it's that military doesn't catch enough.
I agree, but you could also have said:

When the military goes abroad, it is usually telling you how this affects your freedoms from half-way across the world, and most people will never say a negative thing about it. When police protect your freedoms, they do it on your street, and the streets around you. The military is too cherished and too powerful to mount any effective criticism against, while a local police force is more tangible. It's not a problem of military getting blind support for following orders; it's that police don't get enough support.

Maybe one day we will have a bunch of perfect android cops and call it good.

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